[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

Jan-Erik Söderholm jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Thu Dec 27 06:07:30 EST 2018


Den 2018-12-26 kl. 21:28, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
> On 12/26/18 3:15 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2018-12-25, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/25/18 2:15 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 12/25/2018 2:18 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>> In article <pvs0ti$1q65$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>>>> GUI is not really important for VMS.
>>>>>
>>>>> It depends on what one does with VMS.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure a newer X and GTK could be nice, but I don't think it would help
>>>>>> VSI sell a single VMS license.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure.  Obviously, people still on VMS are dependent on a modern
>>>>> GUI.  But it might open the door to some NEW customers.  It doesn't have
>>>>> to have all the bells and whistles.  A reasonably modern web browser
>>>>> would probably be enough.  :-|
>>>>
>>>> You think there will be people willing to pay for a VMS license
>>>> for a box used for web browsing running VMS?
>>>>
>>>> I don't see that as realistic.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe not, but people running VMS may want to browse the web
>>> without having to go to a different machine just for that one
>>> trivial task.
>>>
>>
>> VMS should be viewed more as an embedded system that people connect
>> to remotely. In that situation, the device they are using to connect
>> to that VMS system already has multiple web browsers available for it.
>>
>> Dropping a downloaded file on to that VMS server is no different from
>> transfering a file stored locally on another machine.
>>
>> No-one sensible is going to be running a web browser directly on VMS
>> in production use.
> 
> Well, that would probably depend on your definition of "production
> use".  On the manufacturing floor, no, probably not.  But what if
> production is an office environment where the producers are doing
> all their work thru the web?

Yes, including applications based on VMS. (There is also a Javascript
web based VT emulator, if you still have some old VT based apps. But
I see very few new user applications using VT terminal interfaces.).


> Both incoming and outgoing!  Think
> medical systems (which VMS once had a pretty good stranglehold on).
> 
> I guess what we need to find out is just what people think VMS is
> going to be used for.  Playing nethack is probably out at this time.
> 
> bill
> 
> 




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