[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 12/28/2018 8:45 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/27/18 10:04 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 12/27/2018 8:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 12/27/18 11:14 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 12/27/2018 7:16 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>> On 12/26/18 9:42 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>>> POSIX ended up being "everybody look and act like Unix".
>>>>>
>>>>> A standard was needed.  The majority of available Open Source
>>>>> Software was written for Unix/POSIX.  What would you have them
>>>>> do use the totally obscure and unknown VMS API as the basis
>>>>> for POSIX?
>>>>
>>>> I believe the "vendor neutral" aspect was more important
>>>> for POSIX than open source.
>>>>
>>>> POSIX is from 1988 and at the time open source as such
>>>> was not as dominant as now.
>>>>
>>>> It is actually 10 years before the term "open source" was defined.
>>>
>>> While the term open source may  not have been as common as it is
>>> now some of us have been working on open source projects since
>>> at least 1980.  comp.sources.unix comp.sources.misc comp.sources.sun
>>> And lets not forget vmsnet.sources
>>>
>>> bill
>>>
>>
>> One might suggest the DECUS library ...
> 
> Yeah, that too.
> 
> One of the things that has always annoyed me terribly was this
> FSF notion that Stallman "invented" open source software.  All
> he really did was restrict something that was truly free before
> he got involved.

I don't think FSF ever claimed Stallman invented it.

Stallman and FSF may have been the first to formalize some
definitions back in 1983-86.

But the FSF free software definition was replaced
by open source and OSD in 1998.

Arne