[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

[Richard Maher]

On 27/12/2018 7:18 pm, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2018-12-27 kl. 10:25, skrev Hans Bachner:
>> Jan-Erik Söderholm schrieb am 25.12.2018 um 10:38:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> As have been said many times, a web *browser* is wasted money on VMS.
>>> No sane person uses VMS as their "office desktop" today. [...]
>>
>> I'm certainly not asking for a full desktop environment on OpenVMS, 
>> but a reasonable/usable browser should be rather high on the list. 
>> Given the fact that most support stuff (patches, kits, ...) is 
>> accessible through a browser (only, in many cases), there should be a 
>> way to directly download this stuff to a VMS box and not go through 
>> intermediate systems with different OSs.
>>
> 
> To fetch some pacthes or new OS kits a few times a year, I do not see
> the big win here. And not the ROI from browser development/porting.
> 
> For manual kit/patch fetches, your normal Windows desktop works
> perfectly OK.
> 
> Automated patch fetches will not be based on a web browser anyway.
> 
> No, save those efforts for things that actually matters.
> 
> Jan-Erik.
> 
>> Well, VSI offers their kits/ECOs on an SFTP server which changes 
>> requirements a bit. But the old HP(E) interface into the patch website 
>> was quite good, where you could look at details of individual ECO kits 
>> and add them to your download list. I don't know how it looks today as 
>> partners (DSPP/AllianceONE) have been locked out for quite a while now.
>>
>>> And regarding a "GUI for VMS" in general, it is today a web server (on
>>> VMS) and browsers (on some common office desktop platform).
>>
>> This is correct, and, while much management is still done on the 
>> command line and through scripting, more browser based tools at least 
>> for parts which are used only occasionally would be very helpful.
>>
>> Hans.
> 

Give up Jan Erik. These people still want to use All-in-1 and 
VAXDocument :-(