[Info-vax] Internationalization

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2018-12-31 kl. 08:14, skrev Dave Froble:
> On 12/30/2018 8:25 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2018-12-30, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/29/2018 4:46 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>> VAX, Alpha or Itanium are unlikely to see any work on UTF-8, and
>>>> certainly not until well after the x86-64 port and a pile or three of
>>>> other work is completed.
>>>
>>> There are no new VAX, Alpha, or itanic chips.  They are DEAD!
>>>
>>
>> Unless there's something I am unaware of, you can still buy new
>> Itanium systems.
> 
> For a short time, yes, but not for long.
> 
>>> If anyone was to put significant work into any of those three
>>> environments, they're probably also asking to be dead.  There is no
>>> known (to me) reasons for any such activity.
>>>
>>
>> Based on VSI's offerings, there is clearly still a need for supported
>> Alpha systems. It doesn't matter that the Alphas might be emulated
>> Alpha systems because it means people are still running Alpha based
>> code in production.
> 
> VSI has already addressed this, with Versions 8.4 2L1 and 2L2.  These are 
> VSI releases, not HP releases, which takes HP(e) out of the picture.  While 
> they may have on on going releases,

Can you explain that "may have on on going releases".

> they have already addressed the need to 
> have their own release.  Short term, this is good.  Long term, after the 
> port is completed, the goal will be to have everyone possible on x86 systems.
> 

We are currently on Alpha 8.4-2L2 but note that both 8.5 (the release
that includes the new VSI TCPIP V10.6) and 9.2 (the first production
release for x86-64) are part of the roadmap for Alpha.

It is somewhat questionable if our environment ever will be on x86.

> And yes, there may be those stuck on Alpha.
> 
>> Of course, it's possible that the systems are effectively frozen
>> (apart from, say, security patches), but I wonder if anyone is
>> wanting to run new applications, or to extend existing applications,
>> on their Alpha systems ?
> 
> There isn't, as far as I can see, a good reason to do so.
> 
> But, what do I know ??????
> 

Well, the world does not stand still. We have a long list of development
projects on our Alpha environment. Both updates to the current apps but
also new applications.

And I do not think that the Alpha offer from VSI was put together only
for us, so there must be a conciderable number of similar sites.