[Info-vax] Internationalization

Jan-Erik Söderholm jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Mon Dec 31 19:01:03 EST 2018


Den 2018-12-31 kl. 17:36, skrev Dave Froble:
> On 12/31/2018 7:00 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2018-12-31 kl. 08:14, skrev Dave Froble:
>>> On 12/30/2018 8:25 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2018-12-30, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/29/2018 4:46 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> VAX, Alpha or Itanium are unlikely to see any work on UTF-8, and
>>>>>> certainly not until well after the x86-64 port and a pile or three of
>>>>>> other work is completed.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no new VAX, Alpha, or itanic chips.  They are DEAD!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless there's something I am unaware of, you can still buy new
>>>> Itanium systems.
>>>
>>> For a short time, yes, but not for long.
>>>
>>>>> If anyone was to put significant work into any of those three
>>>>> environments, they're probably also asking to be dead.  There is no
>>>>> known (to me) reasons for any such activity.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Based on VSI's offerings, there is clearly still a need for supported
>>>> Alpha systems. It doesn't matter that the Alphas might be emulated
>>>> Alpha systems because it means people are still running Alpha based
>>>> code in production.
>>>
>>> VSI has already addressed this, with Versions 8.4 2L1 and 2L2.  These
>>> are VSI releases, not HP releases, which takes HP(e) out of the
>>> picture.  While they may have on on going releases,
>>
>> Can you explain that "may have on on going releases".
> 
> No Nan-Erik, I'm not VSI.  I cannot say what they might do.  I can make 
> some guesses.
> 

I do not understand your answer. Was that ment to read:

"While they may have _no_ on going releases" ???

It was that double "on on" I did not understand.


> You mentioned perhaps never going off Alpha.  Can you suggest reasons for 
> that?

The most obviouse being no further need for VMS at the time
the X86 port is available.

> DEC made some very reliable stuff, but, in time the costs and 
> efforts will increase.  I guess my question is, do reasons for not using 
> x86 when it's available exist?
> 

Same reasons as today to not use VMS. A new HW platform doesn't
change much for those that do not want to stay on VMS anyway.



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