[Info-vax] Programming languages on VMS

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Thu Feb 1 14:47:40 EST 2018


On 01/31/2018 06:26 PM, DaveFroble wrote:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 01/31/2018 03:54 PM, seasoned_geek wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 9:51:46 AM UTC-6, Jan-Erik 
>>> Soderholm wrote:
>>>> Den 2018-01-24 kl. 16:36, skrev DaveFroble:
>>>
>>>>> Do the "new languages" actually present more and better capabilities?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is a screwdriver better then a hammer? I would guess that you
>>>> understand that the answer is that "it depends"...
>>>>
>>>> In our case, Cobol is "best" for our core applications since it
>>>> gives smooth and fast applications for our end-users. At the same
>>>> time, Python is "best" for reporting and web-facing tools since
>>>> it has the builtin tools to make *that* development easier.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In Dave's defense he asked "more and better capabilities."
>>>
>>> I took that to mean features which would make it worth jumping to one 
>>> of them for his existing or future code base. The short answer would 
>>> be, if your customers are using RMS Indexed files, there is no reason 
>>> to learn anything knew, but a massive reason to start teaching the 
>>> young.
>>>
>>> I do find it weird that someone in College Academia, and the IT 
>>> portion of it, entrusted with educating young minds with employable 
>>> skills needed by the industry, knows nothing about COBOL and even 
>>> less about FORTRAN, especially what industries they are used in.
>>>
>>
>> They do know.  But their desire isn't to keep the ship on a solid
>> course in the direction of success but to steer it in the direction
>> they think it should be going. Anyone (well, except those in academia
>> apparently) who reads todays newspapers will have seen that the IT
>> world is becoming more and more aware of this shortcoming every day.
>>
>> bill
>>
>>
> 
> I like mentioning this:
> 
> Those that can, do ..
> Those that can't do, teach ..
> Those that can't teach, write ..
> And those who can't write, sometimes can still read, and that's the real 
> problem.
> 
> 

Sadly, they can do and teach.  That's not what it's all about.
It's just like the media today. Not about providing accurate
news.  Not about providing entertainment.  Not even about
selling products. It's all about social engineering.  And the
direction they want that engineering to go to meet their
liberal agendas.

bill




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