[Info-vax] Programming languages on VMS

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 02/01/2018 07:08 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 2/1/2018 6:22 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 02/01/2018 06:00 PM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2018-02-01 kl. 23:37, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>>>> On 02/01/2018 05:27 PM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>>> Den 2018-02-01 kl. 20:42, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>>>>>> Really.  So when the system disk dies who replaces the software
>>>>>> on it?  The PC weenie down the hall?
>>>>>
>>>>> You replace the failing disk in the mirror-set and HBVS rebuilds
>>>>> the failing disk. No software is "replaced".
>>>>
>>>> Who is "you"?  The secretary?  The Credit Union Manager?
>>>> The PC weenie down the hall who is lucky if he can install
>>>> a printer?
>>>
>>> Well, if you do have a system, I guess you do also have someone
>>> to fix small issues or someone to call in. Note that a failed
>>> disk in a mirror-set is not that urgent, in particular if it
>>> is an 3-disk mirror set. It is not a show-stopper and you
>>> can get it fixed at office times.
>>
>> But that was my point exactly.  It would take someone familiar with
>> not only VMS but the hardware that VMS runs on, which is not PC
>> class hardware.
> 
> You don't think a normal bright guy can pull out a hot swapable
> disk and put another one in?

Possibly.  But what about the commands needed to integrate the new
disk into the shadow set?  I have admined numerous VMS systems as
well as more than a dozen other OSes and I couldn't do it without
the documentation.

bill