[Info-vax] Programming languages on VMS

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 1/31/2018 6:45 PM, seasoned_geek wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 1:43:51 PM UTC-6, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 1/24/2018 1:59 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>      It is always a bad idea to bet on non-standard features in
>>> any language.  It is one of the reasons Pascal languished outside
>>> of academia (which is where it was designed for, not to teach a
>>> language but to teach concepts.)
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> The by far largest Pascal code base must have been
>> TurboPascal & Delphi on PC.
>>
>> And that code was typical replaced with C++ code
>> using lots of OLE, COM, MFC and ATL.
>>
>> That type of C++ is not more portable than
>> Pascal.
> 
> Well, "must have been" would be the operative phrase. I went to
> college with people who temporarily got jobs as Pascal programmers using
> Turbo. Some used Delphi. Borland is no more. Well, it is owned in name
> by MicroFocus. I recognize nothing in this link which was a Borland
> product back in the day.
> 
> https://www.microfocus.com/borland/?utm_medium=301&utm_source=borland.com

I do.

But I will guess that the stuff you associate with Borland is the stuff
Borland spun off to Embarcadero before being acquired by MicroFocus.

https://www.embarcadero.com/

> I don't know of any PRODUCTION systems which were ever written in
> Turbo anything. That was for PC weenies trying to get rich via shareware.
> 
> The only commercial product I know of written in Pascal was a word
> processor for VMS. I met the woman in charge of the developers one day
> at DEC's Elk Grove Village office. She told me how difficult it was to
> hire Pascal programmers who actually knew Pascal instead of Turbo.
> 
> Of the token few systems written in Turbo Pascal I knew about used to
> run desk drawer jobs, none were ever rewritten. When DOS died, they
> died.

TP and BP were for DOS so when DOS was dropped then applications
done in those disappeared as well

Delphi is for Windows and still exists.

Back in the late 90's Delphi was competing with VB6 for
fast development of GUI's. With some success - maybe
like 1:4 Delphi:VB6.

It was also used for some general software.

https://jonlennartaasenden.wordpress.com/2014/11/06/famous-software-made-with-delphi/

has a list of some of it.

Not all of it is that widely known, but there should
be at least some known names for most people here I guess.

In another pots in this thread JohN Reagan talked about VMS
Pascal users. They also exists.

Arne