[Info-vax] Programming languages on VMS

[DaveFroble]

seasoned_geek wrote:
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 11:51:54 AM UTC-6, DaveFroble wrote:
>> Why do you say this?  I've been able to solve a few problems with it.
>>
> 

> While you are at it, just how many clients have you had who wrote stuff in VB
> only to have that version of VB end of lifed? Not just EOL, but cease to work
> with future OS updates?

So far, none.  VB6 apps developed on WNT still run on weendoze 10.  And server 
versions.

> How many VB 1.0 applications are still running. We have already had posts
> about the hoops people are jumping through, keeping Windows XP alive in a VM
> to nurse a VB 6 application along.
> 
> Consider how many times your DEC BASIC applications ceased working due to an
> OpenVMS upgrade.

Well, never.

> Oh sure, you had to recompile when the OS was straddling
> platforms.

And that's mostly what it was, compile, link, and go.

> We no longer have the FIELD statement to string a record so PDP
> BASIC programs will no longer compile, but Hell, those were on a completely
> different OS.

Last time I looked the FIELD statement was still in VAX/DEC/Compaq/HP/VSI Basic.

> The PC world wants to continually throw out last year's stuff. Even LTS in
> Linux world means 5 years. A real business needs 12 years of stability.
> Developing and deploying a major system will take at least 2 years. It will
> take another 2-3 years for business side to figure out what they really
> wanted and the final changes to be implemented. Then you get a couple of
> years to just make money while the business decides where it wants to go in
> the future.
> 
> Honestly, the only reason Microsoft got such a desktop footing in corporate
> America was the fact XP stayed basically the same for 10 years. Then Vista
> landed with a thud heard 'round the world. It was quickly followed by a paid
> bug fix called Windows 7.
> 
> I'm now seeing companies scream enough. The recent Ubuntu bugaboo with
> network drives and the file browser application has brought a rash of
> comments and reports from system managers who are in the process of jumping
> from Microsoft to one or more YABU because Windows 7 is about to get the
> grand kiss off from Microsoft and 5 years for free is better than what
> Microsoft is selling.

I won't argue with any of that.

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