[Info-vax] OpenVMS servers and clusters as a cloud service

Richard Maher maher_rjSPAMLESS at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 2 18:27:56 EST 2018


On 02-Jan-18 6:52 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2018-01-02 09:16, Richard Maher wrote:
>> On 02-Jan-18 1:45 PM, DaveFroble wrote:
>>> Richard Maher wrote:
>>>> Exactly. There is *no* common system disk save a Desired State image 
>>>> copy. And, at least for IaaS, VMS Clusters are dead. The DLM is dead 
>>>> unless you can tolerate the irony of licensing Oracle's.
>>>
>>> I don't agree.  The DLM is alive and well, and if VSI uses a 
>>> recommendation I sent to them, it would have numeric range locking.
>>>
>>
>> You're missing the point :-( The DLM is/was amazing and lives on in 
>> VMS Clusters but that pathetically limited (geographically and 
>> scalability wise) architecture has been resigned to niche applications.
>>
>> If VMS wants to grow it needs World Wide Session State services and 
>> lock managers.
>>
>> 32 byte lock value blocks are a fucking joke today!
> 
> If you want to grow to Google scale, you cannot have locking in the 
> first place.
> 
>    Johnny
> 


I was going to say "If your Aunt had balls she'd be you Uncle" but I 
don't want to be accused of being transphobic again :-(

Suffice it to say I don't want and never asked to "grow to Google scale".

I have a PaaS cloud service in Sydney, another in Melbourne a an 
arbiter/quorum instance in Singapore. I keep a minimum of 3 Application 
Web Servers and 2 Database servers running in Melb, Syd but can grow to 
10 each if load increases.



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