[Info-vax] OpenVMS servers and clusters as a cloud service

[Kerry Main]

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> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of Arne
> Vajhøj via Info-vax
> Sent: January 1, 2018 7:19 PM
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> Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] OpenVMS servers and clusters as a cloud service
> 
> On 1/1/2018 10:45 AM, Kerry Main wrote:
> > Public Cloud is simply outsourcing all or parts of your Windows/Linux
> > (ONLY) IT to large vendors like Amazon, Google
> IaaS: no - you will still be fully responsible for Linux and Windows.
> 
> PaaS: yes - they will manage OS (and platform software).
> 

Which is the same options that current outsourcers provide - they provide collocation (DC only), IaaS, PaaS or even SaaS. Most people still think of the 80's model of outsourcing to include the all or nothing model with long server deployments etc.

One example of modern outsourcing:
<https://business.bell.ca/shop/enterprise/business-cloud/>

Point is there is no difference other than marketing hype and size of the outsourcer / cloud provider. Outsourcers also now provide capacity on demand as well. Keep in mind there are numerous third party add-on's to VMware that provide automated workflow for VM creation and mgmt.).

> > Fwiw, I expect most future company IT environments to be maintained
> > in hybrid (mix of public/private) clouds while many will simply stay
> > as they are today with dedicated support staff and local IT
> > equipment.
> >
> > Some of the new, non-critical workloads will slowly move to external
> > Public Clouds so companies can get a feel for what the issues and
> > benefits are. The more critical services will stay internal (private
> > or dedicated resources).
> Depends on where you put the line between critical and non-critical.
> 
> The majority will go to public cloud.
> 

Nope - there are many other examples already of companies that went public cloud are now pulling back to private clouds (aka insourcing/shared services). 

The reason is that they discovered the grass is not as green on the other side as they expected.

July 2017
<https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2017/07/25/the-cloud-vs-in-house-infrastructure-deciding-which-is-best-for-your-organization/#263cc5820f65>
"However, the cloud is not always superior to building in-house IT infrastructure. Cloud providers’ slick marketing materials gloss over the technology’s numerous drawbacks, such as skyrocketing fees, poor performance and cybersecurity issues. The decision between using a public cloud and building your own IT infrastructure is not so different than deciding between renting a workspace for your business or buying your own building; both decisions boil down to having total control (and responsibility) over your own environment versus depending on a landlord to provide an adequate workspace and fix problems quickly and adequately."

> > A good example of a major company moving back to providing internal
> IT services with internal staff is General Motors (GM)
> >
> <http://www.autonews.com/article/20171002/OEM06/171009988/randy
> -mott-gm-it-architect>
> > <http://www.autonews.com/article/20170918/OEM06/170919754/gm-
> it-randy-mott>
> > - Sept 18, 2017
> > "Ten times more productivity. One thousand percent more data.
> Nearly 10,000 more employees.
> >
> > That's the result — so far — of an information technology
> > transformation that General Motors began in 2012, a massive effort to
> > undo years of outsourcing those increasingly critical functions and
> > rebuild them in-house from virtually nothing."
> Now you are mixing up cloud and out-sourcing again.
> 
> GM has moved from external IT staff running GM data centers to
> internal staff running GM data centers.
> 
> No public clod after and no public cloud before.
> 
> They have dropped out-sourcing.
> 
> It happens.
> 
> Out-sourcing has potential for savings due to economies of scale
> and the side effect of moving more work from on-shore to off-shore.
> 
> But there is always a long way from potential savings to
> actual savings.
> 
> Based on the article it sounds like the reason behind the
> switch was not lack of cost savings but lack of innovation.
> 
> Arne
> 

Exactly - which is the same issue for public clouds. 

In the rent scenario above,  would you have more creativity and innovation around your house if you own it (private cloud) or if you rent from a landlord and have to wait for him to do repairs and changes to supporting services in your house?

Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com