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[Doomsdrzej]

On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 15:07:18 -0500, nospam <nospam at nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <nga25dh9b1h75o62g6hr03b4e9oliovai5 at 4ax.com>, Doomsdrzej
><dre at do.om> wrote:
>
>> >> The biggest problem in even considering a Tesla is that I live in a
>> >> very cold climate which, since mid-December, has seen its temperature
>> >> go no lower than -25c. In such a climate, the already poor range of an
>> >> electric car is even worse and there are good reasons to believe that
>> >> it wouldn't even start. 
>> >
>> >the batteries are heated in cold weather and the cars start just fine.
>> 
>> Are they heated through the use of a block heater or is there some
>> other solution I'm not aware of?
>
>the batteries are heated and shortly before leaving, you can preheat
>the cabin via a smartphone app.

_How_ are they heated? 

Pre-heating the cabin essentially means that you've turned on the car
remotely. However, this is only possible if the car starts which, of
course, often requires the batteries to be heated.

>> >> There's also the fact that the computers
>> >> within it, something which is essentially problematic for all cars,
>> >> tend to go crazy when the temperatures are too low so the car might
>> >> effectively become useless. 
>> >
>> >nonsense.
>> 
>> Do you live in a climate where -28c temperatures are normal? My
>> Infiniti started perfectly the other day at such a temperature but the
>> continued exposure to the freezing temperatures caused the computer to
>> go nuts and essentially all of the lights within the dashboard lit up
>> and the system disabled everything from the power steering to the 4WD.
>> Once things warmed up a few days later, all of the lights as well as
>> the annoying check engine light turned off. To say the least, I
>> wouldn't trust an electric car in such temperatures.
>
>based on that, you shouldn't trust a *gas* powered vehicle in such
>temperatures.
>
>many gas powered vehicles have engine block heaters because they won't
>start in extreme weather.

My previous car, a Jeep Patriot, did. However, neither my BMW 428i nor
the Infiniti QX30 have one. The Patriot, funny enough, was a total
piece of poop in _warm_ temperatures.