[Info-vax] Intel junk...Kernel-memory-leaking Intel processor design flaw forces Linux, Windows redesign

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 01/06/2018 03:07 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <nga25dh9b1h75o62g6hr03b4e9oliovai5 at 4ax.com>, Doomsdrzej
> <dre at do.om> wrote:
> 
>>>> The biggest problem in even considering a Tesla is that I live in a
>>>> very cold climate which, since mid-December, has seen its temperature
>>>> go no lower than -25c. In such a climate, the already poor range of an
>>>> electric car is even worse and there are good reasons to believe that
>>>> it wouldn't even start.
>>>
>>> the batteries are heated in cold weather and the cars start just fine.
>>
>> Are they heated through the use of a block heater or is there some
>> other solution I'm not aware of?
> 
> the batteries are heated and shortly before leaving, you can preheat
> the cabin via a smartphone app.

And that heating shortens your range.  Or did you think it was
somehow free?

> 
>>>> There's also the fact that the computers
>>>> within it, something which is essentially problematic for all cars,
>>>> tend to go crazy when the temperatures are too low so the car might
>>>> effectively become useless.
>>>
>>> nonsense.
>>
>> Do you live in a climate where -28c temperatures are normal? My
>> Infiniti started perfectly the other day at such a temperature but the
>> continued exposure to the freezing temperatures caused the computer to
>> go nuts and essentially all of the lights within the dashboard lit up
>> and the system disabled everything from the power steering to the 4WD.
>> Once things warmed up a few days later, all of the lights as well as
>> the annoying check engine light turned off. To say the least, I
>> wouldn't trust an electric car in such temperatures.
> 
> based on that, you shouldn't trust a *gas* powered vehicle in such
> temperatures.

Why?  Temps here have been below zero for a week with wind chills
in the -20 to -30 range.  My truck starts just fine.  Funny, my
wife asked about "dry gas" at the gas station and they didn't even
know what she was talking about.  I had to explain to her why we
really don't need it anymore.  Now, diesels still have serious
problems in the winter cold but that is mostly big truck diesels.
I had a Volvo diesel a long time ago and worked fine in Potsdam, NY
in January.

> 
> many gas powered vehicles have engine block heaters because they won't
> start in extreme weather.

I know people with diesels in their pickup trucks who have them, but I
have never seen a need for one in a gasoline car.  Of course, I doubt
my 1979 MGB would start after sitting out there in the cold for 2 months
without running, but technology has changed.  I'll probably find out.
The winds blew the covers off the car and I thought I might try starting
it before I cover it up again for the rest of the winter.

bill