[Info-vax] Intel junk...Kernel-memory-leaking Intel processor design flaw forces Linux, Windows redesign

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 01/07/2018 10:36 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 20:00:27 -0500, Bill Gunshannon
> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 01/06/2018 07:56 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 17:46:57 -0500, Bill Gunshannon
>>> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/06/2018 05:27 PM, nospam wrote:
>>>>> In article <fbd0coFu54eU1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>>>>> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The biggest problem in even considering a Tesla is that I live in a
>>>>>>>>>> very cold climate which, since mid-December, has seen its temperature
>>>>>>>>>> go no lower than -25c. In such a climate, the already poor range of an
>>>>>>>>>> electric car is even worse and there are good reasons to believe that
>>>>>>>>>> it wouldn't even start.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the batteries are heated in cold weather and the cars start just fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are they heated through the use of a block heater or is there some
>>>>>>>> other solution I'm not aware of?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the batteries are heated and shortly before leaving, you can preheat
>>>>>>> the cabin via a smartphone app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that heating shortens your range.  Or did you think it was
>>>>>> somehow free?
>>>>>
>>>>> it's effectively free. the impact is a few miles less range, out of
>>>>> 200-300 miles total. most trips are well under that, so it's not even
>>>>> remotely a concern.
>>>>
>>>> Say what?
>>>>
>>>> Honda FitEV - 82 miles
>>>> KIA SoulEV - 93 miles
>>>> Mercedes Benz B-Class Electric Drive - 124 miles
>>>> Mitsubishi I-MiEV - 106 miles
>>>> Nissan Leaf - 75 miles
>>>> Smart electric Drive - 90 miles
>>>> Volkswagen e-Up - 99 miles
>>>> Chevy Spark EV - 82 miles
>>>> BMW i3 - 114 miles
>>>>
>>>> Not everybody can afford a Tesla.
>>>>
>>>> Before I retired my daily commute was between 60 and 70 miles.  Very
>>>> close for some of these cars without using some of that electricity
>>>> for heat.  One detour because of an accident on the highway and I am
>>>> screwed.  And what do you think it will cost to have it flatbeded to
>>>> my house?  Not to mention the wasted time, inconvenience and danger of
>>>> being stranded on the side of the road.  especially in -20 temps.
>>>>
>>>> Electric cars are about as ready for reality as autonomous cars.
>>>
>>> I just put 450km of highway/city driving on my QX30 before it kindly
>>> asked me whether I would buy it a drink of oil. None of those
>>> affordable electric cars get anywhere near there. Only Tesla does...
>>> and it has a wait time as well as a very high price tag.
>>>
>>
>> My Silverado gets over 500 on a tank except when I'm towing
>> my camper.  Wonder how far a Tesla would pull that?  :-)
> 
> I imagine that the Silverado has a fairly large tank to be able to do
> that. Mine's about 50 litres if I remember correctly.
> 

Of course it does.  But it's all about range and getting a
bigger tank gives me more range.  Doing that with an electric
would be, well, impossible.

But, now all you electric guys got me thinking.  I am not
against electric cars.  I just have always found them to
be impractical both technically and financially.  I have
an article here somewhere about a man who converted a
Triumph Spitfire (I used to have one of those, too) to
an electric car and while searching for the article online
I found dozens and dozens of articles about people who
converted old sports cars to electric.  Maybe that's
the direction I should take my MGB.  It is never going
on any long range trips anyway (at least not with todays
technology) but for just driving around electric would
work just as well as gas.  Who knows, maybe by the time
I actually get around to doing the conversion electrics
may have solved the range problem.

bill