[Info-vax] Programming languages on VMS

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Den 2018-01-24 kl. 16:36, skrev DaveFroble:
> John Reagan wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 8:49:22 AM UTC-5, Paul Sture wrote:
>>> On 2018-01-24, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2018 3:17 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>> In article <p45v88$1u3q$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>>>> Languages needed for old stuff:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fortran - HP/VSI, will be ported
>>>>>> Languages needed for new stuff:
>>>>> Hey!  One can write new code in Fortran!
>>>> You can.
>>>>
>>>> But if you look at 1000 new applications how many of them will
>>>> actually be in Fortran?
>>> If you look at the scientific and High Performance world, Fortran
>>> is still in use.
>>>
>>> There is of course lots of existing Fortran 77 code, but Fortran 77
>>> apparently still has a distinct performance advantage over later
>>> versions, so it is used for new programs as well.
>>>
>>>> My guess: most likely none, maybe one or two.
>>> Probably more if you confine your search to the sector which uses
>>> Fortran already.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> In 1911, Hollerith's firm was merged with several other producers of
>>> specialized business equipment to produce CTR, the Computing-Tabulating
>>> -Recording Company. The "Computing" part referred to weighing scales -
>>> an interesting example of how language evolves over time.
>>
>> There is a new Fortran frontend for LLVM named 'flang'.
>> https://github.com/flang-compiler/flang
>>
> 
> John, you know a bit about languages.  Let me ask a question.
> 
> I'll preface the question by admitting that I view much of the "new 
> languages" as some people who just want to "re-invent the wheel".
> 
> Do the "new languages" actually present more and better capabilities?
> 

Is a screwdriver better then a hammer? I would guess that you
understand that the answer is that "it depends"...

In our case, Cobol is "best" for our core applications since it
gives smooth and fast applications for our end-users. At the same
time, Python is "best" for reporting and web-facing tools since
it has the builtin tools to make *that* development easier.

It is a little weird that you hae to ask that quesstins at all.






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