[Info-vax] EU will abandon daylight savings time in 2021

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 4/5/19 1:52 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 4/5/2019 12:49 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 4/5/19 11:48 AM, Baldrick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Didn't the US adopt different dates for "energy saving"? Is that ruled
>>> out now with better efficiency LED lights? Europe effectively banned
>>> incandescent lighting.
>>
>> I have heard this before.  Supposedly the idea started with
>> Ben Franklin to conserve on candle use.  Then in more modern
>> times to conserve energy.  In both cases it really doesn't
>> make any sense at all.  Who in Ben Franklin's day or ours
>> today does not start their day before the sun comes up and
>> not end it till long after the sun has gone down.
> 
> Must be nice in your narrow little world ....

Not my narrow world, the majority of the real world that, for the
most part, starts work between 7:30 and 9:00 requiring getting up
and leaving for work before sunrise most of the year and seldom
goes to bed before 9:00 or 10:00 in the evening.

> 
> To answer your question, for one, me.  It is most often daylight when I 
> get up each morning.  Today, it was 12:00 noon, or, 11:00 std time. Yes, 
> a bit later than usual.

You are the odd one.  Of course, there arre also those who work
shifts other than day shift. What do they get out of DST?

> 
> I'll also admit to often being up later than some.  In such a case, the 
> extra hour in the evening is good for me.

I am in favor of stopping the change but settling on the DST clock.
I too like it to stay lighter later.  But the average day for most
people is still longer than the number of hours of daylight so it
really matters very little regarding the saving of power or candles.

> 
> Perhaps since not everyone fits into your narrow little world, you'll 
> claim we "don't count".  Figures.  Got to wonder how distressing it 
> might be for you to actually see the wider world out there that you 
> normally dismiss.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

> 
>>  All DST
>> has ever done is shift the daylight period in regards the
>> wall clock.  It has never provided more daylight and thus
>> a savings of whatever means was used to generate artificial
>> light.  I'm retired and I still rise before the sun and go
>> to bed long after the sun has departed.
> 
> You are correct.  No actual increase in daylight.  But, for some, there 
> can be some benefits, as Baldrick has stated.

And for anyone that gets an advantage out of it someone else gets
a disadvantage.

bill