[Info-vax] OpenSSL CSWS-2.2-1

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2019-04-07 kl. 17:49, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
> On 4/7/19 11:20 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote:
>> On 4/7/19 9:21 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 4/7/19 10:06 AM, Neil Rieck wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We attempted to move support from HPE to VSI last year but our 
>>>> management would not approve the purchase of software relicensing by VSI. 
>>>
>>> I know this is not what people want to hear and I will be blamed
>>> for the bad news (always shoot the messenger!) but I have seen
>>> this as a potential sticking point since the announcement of the
>>> creation of VSI.
>>
>> If you were the conveyor of non-bogus information, then people might be
>> more receptive.
>>
> 
> Why do you say it was bogus?  Neil just posted an example from his
> own personal experience supporting it.

Neil posted one example from one specific company. I can post another
example from another specific company that did the opposite. So then
we are even, right?

>> When we moved to VSI from HPE a couple of years ago at the time our HPE
>> support contract was expiring, it was a whole lot cheaper to get a
>> support contract with VSI including new licenses than to renew with HPE.
> 
> You were lucky.  Are everyone's licenses going to expire at just
> the right time?

Everyone's licences will expire when the support from HPE ends.
What would the "right time" be otherwise?

> 
>>   So switching to VSI meant saving money immediately, not incurring any
>> extra expense.  Our licenses included upgrade rights to the x86_64
>> version when it becomes available.
> 
> But that doesn't pay for the new equipment which will be an
> additional expense.

The usual x86 server replacement period is 3-4 years. How could it
then be an issue to replace some 10-15 year old Alpha with x86?

> Not saying it is a bad idea, just trying to get past the blinders
> of people here and point out that the picture is not as rosy as
> some would like it to be.  It's hard sell and with the negative
> picture...

What "negative picture". They have transferred the maintenance
of VMS to someone else and are winding down their own business.
What else could they do?

> that HPE continues to paint, it isn't going to get better.
> 
> Tell me,

Ask VSI if you need to know.