[Info-vax] EU will abandon daylight savings time in 2021

[Phillip Helbig undress to reply]

In article <gheeggF2i1pU1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
<bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> writes: 

> >>>> According to the website I just checked sunrise in PA on the
> >>>> longest day of the years is 5:40.
> >>>
> >>> OK 5:40. Without DST that would be 4:40.
> >>
> >> No, it's 5:40 and with DST it's 6:40.
> > 
> > It is 5:40 EDT with DST in place and that is 4:40 EST without DST.
> > 
> > Check the table.
> 
> Must be looking at different tables because mine gave the hours
> of daylight in real time, not DST.

The number of hours of daylight is independent of DST or not.  Perhaps 
you table gives the times in normal time.  Whatever that time is, the 
corresponding DST will be an hour later.

> > Or just look out the window in the morning - it is 6:31 with DST
> > tomorrow and still more than 2 months to midsummer day.

One springs forward in the spring and falls back in the fall.  I don't 
know when sunrise is on the longest day there, but the longest day will 
be during daylight-saving time, so the corresponding "normal" time would 
be one hour EARLIER.  Think about it---with DST it gets dark later, but 
of course the number of hours of daylight doesn't change when moving to 
DST, so it must get light later as well.  So, sunrise at a given time 
DST will be an hour later than with normal time.

> And still dark here.  I get up by 6:30 AM every day.  And on
> cloudy days (which seem to make up the majority any more) it
> stays darker even later.  

Right.  It gets light later with DST, and gets dark later.

> I do  like having the later sun.  When I was in Georgia
> for 6 months thru the summer of 2008 I was able to get off
> work and still play golf because that far south it stayed
> light until after 7:00 PM.  

In summer, the farther south you go (in the northern hemisphere), the 
EARLIER it gets dark (at the same longitude, of course).