[Info-vax] IBM nearing deal to acquire Red Hat

[johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk]

On Wednesday, 17 April 2019 03:32:41 UTC+1, Dave Froble  wrote:
> On 4/16/2019 8:40 PM, clair.grant at vmssoftware.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:02:40 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> >> On 4/16/2019 5:26 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> >>> When VMS runs on x86, how easy will it be to run VMS on a standard cloud
> >>> platform?
> >>
> >> Very easy I hope.
> >>
> >> I believe running in VM and cloud support are high on VSI roadmap.
> >>
> >> But I don't know specifically if they have said that it will
> >> run in AWS and Azure.
> >>
> >> Arne
> >
> > Here is the way I look at it. Let's say I sign up for some compute
> time with AWS and I need to run my apps on Windows. AWS will give me a
> VM guest running Windows. The real question is, what hypervisor is
> providing that guest? Hyper-V, VMware, kvm, xen? This what VSI needs to
> provide...the ability to run in as many guest environments as is
> reasonable so you can run your VMS applications in a standard cloud
> provider.
> >
> > Clair
> >
> 
> Question for you Clair.
> 
> I'm not at all familiar with "the cloud", I know nothing.
> 
> As things are today, if say AWS gives you a VM guest, I'm guessing it is 
> software they (the cloud) has available to them, on their server(s). 
> You then want to run WEENDOZE on that VM.  Do you provide the software, 
> or, does AWS have copies of WEENDOZE ready to use?  Then taking that a 
> bit further, if you want to run VMS on a VM that AWS supplies.  Will AWS 
> have copies of VMS available for you, or, would you have to load VMS on 
> that VM over the internet?
> 
> Just wondering what your thoughts are on such an event, and who has 
> copies of VMS?
> 
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As Clair says, there's the commercial answer, and then there's
the engineering answer. Other answers may be available too.

If you initially confine the question to "where do I start to 
learn about running Windows apps in the cloud", a place to 
start (albei5 one with an interest to declare) might be
https://aws.amazon.com/windows/

Or more focused on (Open)VMS in the cloud, there's this:

https://www.prweb.com/releases/2018/03/prweb15293914.htm
"VMS Software, Inc. and Advanced Virtualization Technologies Announce VSI Cloud for VAX/Alpha Servers Running OpenVMS"
which leads back to VSI, at
http://vmssoftware.com/pdfs/services/vsi_cloud.pdf

When reading the marketing stuff, please bear in mind that 
terms like "bare metal" don't always have a widely agreed 
definition. 

Have a lot of fun :)