[Info-vax] VMware

[clair.grant@vmssoftware.com]

On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 4:10:18 PM UTC-5, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/9/2019 1:00 PM, Kerry Main wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of clair.grant---
> >> via Info-vax
> >> Sent: December 9, 2019 5:42 AM
> >> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> >> Cc: clair.grant at vmssoftware.com <clairgrant71 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] VMware
> >>
> >> VBox and kvm are our committed platforms for the V9.0 EAK. We have done
> >> debugging on both all along and what works on one works on the other.
> >>
> >> Over the past five years I have lost track of the number of times I have
> > heard
> >> the following. "We run our entire IT shop on VMware, except for VMS which
> >> sits over in the corner on a very expensive piece of HW that everyone
> > wants
> >> to get rid of. Get VMS on VMware and you will have a long life with us."
> >> That's why VMware is so important to us.
> >>
> >
> > Absolutely - as I mentioned, VMware support would be huge.
> >
> > To put thinks in perspective, I would say that VMware has approx. 90+% of
> > the hypervisor market, so their formal support is very important.
> >
> > Having stated this, VMware is a bit like Oracle and Microsoft i.e. once they
> > achieve a certain level of market dominance, they keep cranking up their
> > prices as they believe Customers will just keep paying.
> >
> > In fact, many of the larger Customers are now starting to rebel and look for
> > viable alternatives.
> 
> As I may have mentioned, I have no experience with such products.  That 
> written, the following question may or may not have any relevance.
> 
> At what point does the cost of the VMware make that piece of HW in the 
> corner not so expensive, in comparison?  Regardless, it would still have 
> it's own power supplies, and that can be an issue.
> 
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The big thing for the people I talk with is that VMS is different. The HW cost is certainly a big factor but even more important is that these people already run dozens, if not hundreds, of VMware guests. They want VMS to be in there, too, possibly in many guests. The message is always the same, don't be different if you want to stay around.