[Info-vax] Internationalization

[Dave Froble]

On 1/1/2019 11:35 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2019-01-01 kl. 09:02, skrev Dave Froble:
>> On 12/31/2018 7:01 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2018-12-31 kl. 17:36, skrev Dave Froble:
>>>> On 12/31/2018 7:00 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>>> Den 2018-12-31 kl. 08:14, skrev Dave Froble:
>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 8:25 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2018-12-30, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/29/2018 4:46 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> VAX, Alpha or Itanium are unlikely to see any work on UTF-8, and
>>>>>>>>> certainly not until well after the x86-64 port and a pile or
>>>>>>>>> three of
>>>>>>>>> other work is completed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are no new VAX, Alpha, or itanic chips.  They are DEAD!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless there's something I am unaware of, you can still buy new
>>>>>>> Itanium systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a short time, yes, but not for long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If anyone was to put significant work into any of those three
>>>>>>>> environments, they're probably also asking to be dead.  There is no
>>>>>>>> known (to me) reasons for any such activity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on VSI's offerings, there is clearly still a need for
>>>>>>> supported
>>>>>>> Alpha systems. It doesn't matter that the Alphas might be emulated
>>>>>>> Alpha systems because it means people are still running Alpha based
>>>>>>> code in production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VSI has already addressed this, with Versions 8.4 2L1 and 2L2.  These
>>>>>> are VSI releases, not HP releases, which takes HP(e) out of the
>>>>>> picture.  While they may have on on going releases,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you explain that "may have on on going releases".
>>>>
>>>> No Nan-Erik, I'm not VSI.  I cannot say what they might do.  I can
>>>> make some guesses.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do not understand your answer. Was that ment to read:
>>>
>>> "While they may have _no_ on going releases" ???
>>>
>>> It was that double "on on" I did not understand.
>>
>> Yes, a typo, my bad ....
>>
>
> Right, then I do not understand why you didn't looked that up
> when I asked about it. Anyway...
>
> So, if I *now* understand what you are saying, had you looked up
> the current Alpha roadmap before claiming that "they may have no
> on-going releases"? Was that claim made knowing about the currect
> roadmap including V8.5 and V9.2?
>

Two questions.

First, believe it or not, an English speaker will sometimes read what he 
thought was being said, and will not pick up on a typing error.  You on 
the other hand probably need to read closely, and pick up such errors 
more often.

No, I didn't lookup the roadmap.

Please notice my use of the term "may" which allows multiple 
possibilities.  I was "guessing".

To explain my thoiughts, I was thinking of a comment from Clair, about 
doing the VSI Alpha release, and then hoping they could make some money 
from it.  This thought caused me to consider that initially VSI said 
there would not be an Alpha release, and then changed their mind about 
that.  Considering that once having a VSI release, they were then able 
to sell support, which might have been the reason for the VSI Alpha 
release.  If so, there might not be a good reason to issue more Alpha 
releases, and they could still sell Alpha support from now into the future.

Note that the above is a lot of speculation, and no facts.  Perhaps now 
I should go and take another look at the roadmap, huh?

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