[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

[Richard Maher]

On 4/01/2019 10:35 pm, gérard Calliet wrote:
> Le 04/01/2019 à 03:07, Richard Maher a écrit :
>> On 4/01/2019 2:17 am, Henry Crun wrote:
>>> On 03/01/2019 19:19, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>>> In article <mn.1bac7e31e941b93e.104627 at invalid.skynet.be>, Marc Van 
>>>> Dyck <marc.gr.vandyck at invalid.skynet.be> writes:
>>>>> gיrard Calliet has brought this to us :
>>>>>> Le 02/01/2019 א 02:31, Richard Maher a יcrit :
>>>>>>> On 31/12/2018 4:08 pm, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <q0bsng$t88$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, Richard Maher
>>>>>>>> <maher_rjSPAMLESS at hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My real point is that I'm just sick of all these nostalgia junkies
>>>>>>>>> saying "Without a DEC keyboard I can't play Star Tek properly 
>>>>>>>>> :-(" pr
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.  How many years have people lost because they never learned 
>>>>>>>> to type
>>>>>>>> properly?  If one can type properly AND use the keypad (not just in
>>>>>>>> EDT), a huge amount of time is saved.  Of course, people who 
>>>>>>>> can't type
>>>>>>>> properly won't care about the keypad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. Even by my shoddy standards my post was unintelligible. 
>>>>>>> Started my New
>>>>>>> Year's eve celebrating pretty early.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I'm too old too learm Windows" (tou should DCL fans will love
>>>>>>>>> PowerShell).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No.  Life is too short to mess with Windows.  Or Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I take my hat off to everyone/anyone who's been able to earn a 
>>>>>>> living in
>>>>>>> the last 10 years IT with just VMS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did too. I started my career with VMS in college in 1980, and never
>>>>> left it since. I never touched a single Unix or Linux system, and
>>>>> I'm just a simple, straightforward MS Windows end user. And it looks
>>>>> like the next five years I have in front of me to finish my
>>>>> professional
>>>>> career will not be any different. How's that ?
>>>>
>>>> Good for you!  My money comes in from VMS.  I use Linux and Android, 
>>>> but
>>>> nothing really for anthing that brings me money.  WEENDOZE?  
>>>> Useless!  I
>>>> have one rocket altimeter that requires its data communication/download
>>>> software run on WEENDOZE.  It's nothing but problems, problems, 
>>>> problems.
>>>> I will not purchase any product that has a WEENDOZE only interface 
>>>> and I
>>>> am quite sorry I purchased this one particular altimeter.  I have never
>>>> has a need for WEENDOZE and as soon as I replace this rocket altimeter,
>>>> I will never have need for it again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Me too, more or less.
>>> Started on PDP-11 (RSTS 6? IIRC)
>>> Went to a VAX 730 as soon as we got one.
>>> Working with VMS since except for a three-month hiatus between being 
>>> fired by HP for reaching mandatory pension age, and being rehired by 
>>> HP as a contractor at a client's site.
>>> Still there, working part-time. Turned 75 this year so that's 
>>> probably my last job.
>>> (When I started I was told 'it's a two year project' - that was four 
>>> years ago...)
>>> Linux at home, though.
>>>
>>
>> Congratulations all!
>>
>> Just curious. How many apart from Brian are developers and how many 
>> get paid for "Monitoring" backups etc.
>>
>> I guess I should've qualified my hat-tipping to developers (and not 
>> VSI people)
> I mainly organize ports from VMSs to VMSs (VAX to simh, Alpha to EmuVM, 
> Alpha to Itanium). And develop some more fashioned interfaces with what 
> I can use with VMS, sometimes Java Frameworks.
> 
> The most funny I have done is a back-port from Rally to DECForms & 
> Cobol, developping semi-automatic translation via Ruby, Xslt and Scala. 
> Rally was not available on Itanium, and they choose going back to their 
> main tools (DecForms and Cobol) a critical but sole Rally application 
> when they went from Alpha to Itanium.
> 
> Next year I'll improve our built of GNAT Ada on Itanium, and get part of 
> my earning on training young people on VAX/VMS 5.5 for project having to 
> run on the exact same configuration until 2035.
> 
> Next next year I'll have to hire lot of young people to port all the 
> french users of VMS to x86 VMS :)
> 
> Gérard Calliet

Ah, DECforms :-( May EVERYONE involved get what's coming to them in the 
after life!

And I believe in the after life. Just struggle with forgiving ALL who 
trespass against us.