[Info-vax] Python 2 support ends 1-Jan-2020

[Richard Maher]

On 5/01/2019 5:42 am, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 1/4/2019 2:20 PM, johnson.eric at gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 1:17:37 PM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>
>>> Yes,  Python3 is really a completely different language than Python2.
>>
>> Perhaps its one of perspective, but I don't think it's fair to
>> say they are completely different.
>>
>> But to be fair, there are just enough breaking changes that
>> the work to be done and tested (for a large code base) can
>> feel substantial.
>>
>> Many of the python3 advocates continue to be surprised at
>> just how recalcitrant the python2 base is. I suspect
>> that's because those advocates are unfamiliar with the
>> pains of managing a large scale production facing code base
>> and the well placed fears that exist with deploying any
>> "big change".
> 
> Am I the only one who finds this humorous?
> 
> I also wonder why there are so many "newer" programming environments. 
> For something like java, the concept of a Java engine that once 
> implemented in any environment would then execute Java code appears to 
> be a good idea.  The reality might not live up to the goal.
> 
> Sometimes I feel that every wanna-be language developer creates his own 
> language, just because he wants to, not because of any actual need.  If 
> that is really the case, then it's just chaos, with nothing anyone can 
> really count upon.
> 
> Too bad there language developers sometimes don't have a clue when it 
> comes to production environments, and the resistance to re-write 
> applications every 6 months or so.
> 
> Some years ago I was informed that I could not be a serious programmer 
> if I didn't know PHP.  I asked the guy if he ever did any assembler 
> work, and got a blank look.  He had never heard of assembler programming.
> 
> I also wonder at times about the names.  If I wasn't prejudiced, I guess 
> I could also ask about Ada, Basic, Cobol, Fortran, Algol, and of course C.
> 
> :-)
> 

Mate it's not just languages, it's then "modern" frameworks :-(((((

Does anyone here now how shit any Virtual DOM framework is? Performance, 
"single" source of truth :-), coding gymnastics?

React/Redux, Angular, Bootstrap, jQuery, WebPack, Babel, lowPack, SaSS etc

The world is run by th ignorant!