[Info-vax] Most popular application programming languages on VMS ?

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 1/11/19 8:40 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 6:31:53 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 1/10/2019 5:00 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2019 4:39 PM, John Reagan wrote:
>>>> I was discussing with Rob that the documentation for that DLM feature
>>>> And back to the question about "code donations", etc., such things
>>>> get really complicated with licenses, ownership, patent protection,
>>>> etc.  For example, if you send me something with a GPL license, I'll
>>>> delete it.
>>>
>>> Understood.
>>>
>>>>   If you send me something, with copyright to you, I'll
>>>> delete it.
>>>
>>> Even if I grant you full and unfettered use of the code, including the
>>> right to remove copyright?
>>   >
>>   >> If you send me something with no copyright, I'll delete
>>   >> it.
>>   >
>>   > Now, that one I just don't understand.  How about if I state that the
>>   > code is a donation to VSI with no strings attached?  How about if I sell
>>   > you the code for $1 ?  Or one cent?
>>
>> Copyright does not disappear just because the
>> copyright notice get removed.
>>
>> You need to explicit grant him rights.
>>
>> And if you pick your own  wording then it will be bad because
>> he will need to pay a lawyer big bucks to review it.
>>
>> If you use a recognized permissive open source license: Apache,
>> BSD, MIT etc. then everybody should be happy.
>>
>> Arne
> 
> ^^ this ^^
> 
> Even if I get some email from somebody claiming to be you that grants me rights, that is not sufficient.  Your estate can easily dispute such an unproven email and file a civil suit that could go on forever.
> 
> This isn't much different to posting photos online.  You retain copyright ownership even if you don't slap on some notice or overprint image.
> 

And, ignores the fact that just because I slap my
copyright on something and claim I own it does not
make it so.  And that has to be verified as well
before it can be used commercially.

bill