[Info-vax] VAXStation 3100

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 1/19/19 3:29 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 1/18/2019 8:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 1/18/19 7:35 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> 
>>> And I have to ask, are you ocnfusing DECnet with LAT?  Two totally
>>> separate things.
>>
>> Yes, but I thought LAT was a subset of DECNET.  Guess I was wrong.
>> So, does VMS still support connections via LAT?
> 
> No, LAT is a totally separate thing.
> 
>>> Perhaps the non-VMS DECnet stuff you have has had additions that never
>>> existed on VMS?
>>
>> Not as far as I know.  It was done from the published DEC
>> protocol docs.  I know it works with my DECServer 200 so I
>> can login to the other boxes from a terminal connected to
>> it.  Hmmmm...  Maybe that's a solution.  I wonder if I can
>> connect to the VMS box from the DECServer?  That would
>> provide buffering and flow control.
> 
> If you have a working DECserver 200, then things get real simple.
> 
> Well, maybe ....
> 
> I confess, I've never really been a system manager.  I used to know 
> enough to manage my own systems, and in the dim past I used to know 
> enough to set up customer systems.
> 
> I don't remember if you have to do anything other than start up LAT, 
> LAT$SYSTARTUP.COM, which should be part of system startup, and perhaps 
> have a MOP download to the terminal server, which means you need the 
> terminal server software.
> 
> I set up my current systems so long ago that I seem to forget just about 
> everything.
> 
> NCP CONNECT NODE SRVR3
> 
> Got me to a # prompt, and I have forgotten the access password, wait, 
> that's it I think, ACCESS.
> 
> With a connection to the terminal server you can set up each port.  You 
> can set up an automatic (default) connection to the VMS system on each 
> port.
> 
> I'm sitting here in the middle of the night, aghast at how much I don't 
> remember.  This is distressing.
> 
> But, perhaps it shows how good DEC gear and VMS is, since it's been 
> running for maybe 20 years without any management.  Or not much.
> 
> If you need details, ask, me, I'm going to maybe spend the weekend 
> jogging some old memories.
> 
> Maybe I'll fire up one of the older systems, install V7.3, and do the 
> rest of the set-up.  Might be fun, jog my memory, and it's suppose to 
> snow anyway, what else is there to do?
> 

Was much easier than that.  I found a mention of
SYS$STARTUP:LAT$STARTUP.COM on a website so I ran it.

$ llogin -d
HOME1                       Available     Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX 
Operating System, Version V7.3
MINECRAFT                   Available    Linux 4.15.0-43-generic
SPARKY                      Available    FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE


There it is, right at the top of the list.  Was able to connect
to it from my Unix systems and from the DECServer.  I used the
method offered to bootstrap Kermit as my setup:

set terminal /ttsync /hostsync
create 2019PAK.COM

and then just used cut&paste to send it on its merry way.
^Z at the end and @2019PAK and now I have all my licenses
loaded (confirmed with SHOW LICENSE).

Now on to loading stuff and then I can get on with the
real fun.

A couple more quick questions, though.

I saw no PAK for it so is there no RGP I or RPG II for
VMS?  It's another language I haven't used for ages and
would have liked to play with again.  And what about APL?

Does Multinet still have a Hobbyist license?  What about
the former Kednos?  PL/I?

I wonder if BLISS-11 is still around anywhere?  Freeware?

Thanks for all the help.  Next big step will be to hang
a stack of RZ1DB's off the back of this thing.  :-)

Don't worry, I'll be back with even more questions
probably.


bill