[Info-vax] VAXStation 3100

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 1/20/2019 2:47 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2019-01-20, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 1/19/2019 10:24 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2019-01-18, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>> Now, after getting a bit used to this, let me open up an old argument.
>>>> Do tell us what is easier to install, VMS stuff or WEENDOZE stuff?
>>>
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> Linux is even better because it comes with the package management and
>>> selection stuff so most of the common packages are integrated into
>>> whatever Linux distribution you are using and can be easily installed
>>> on demand.
>>
>> I don't see the big difference between yum, MSI and PCSI. If
>> I would have to rate them then I would probably say yum > MSI > PCSI.
>> But they are all using the same basic model: an advanced tool take
>> a kit and by magic get everything in the right places.
>>
> 
> Yes, but with Linux, there's an additional layer on top of yum
> which is a large list of various packages available for installation
> which is organised by category.

Isn't that what yum does?

>> I used to be pretty impressed by that. But I no longer like
>> that model.
>>
>> It does not scale well. It works great for 10-25 products. It does
>> not work well for hundreds or thousands of products.
> 
> Which is why on Linux, you have a layer on top of yum.

Not really. You can get a GUI, but it does not really change
anything.

>> Today my preference is the UNZIP install or XCOPY install.
>>
>> You create a dir anywhere you want, you get the files there
>> and you run a setup and/or startup script and that is it.
>>
>> No files scattered all over the system. No automatic changes
>> to any general setup/startup scripts.
> 
> That means you don't get an automatic notification when there's
> an update available for security reasons.

That is a problem. But it is a solvable problem.

>> Easy to have multiple versions in parallel.
>>
> 
> That only works if there are no system wide changes required.

Correct.

But the whole point is that there should not be any system
wide changes.

Arne