[Info-vax] C and C++ and clanger-free clanging

[Dave Froble]

On 7/4/2019 5:00 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2019-07-04 14:50:09 +0000, Dave Froble said:
>
>> Well, where else would one reasonably put such?
>
> Where else?  On OpenVMS, in the build procedures.
>
> That's fairly common, too.

If you lose the build procedure, then what?  Lots of work to figure out 
what's required.

I guess to be fair, one could also lose the source code, but then you're 
not so worried about how to compile the code, huh?

> Either a procedure written in DCL that builds the specific source file
> or specific executable, or the whole show.
>
> Or if not in DCL, as some of the data invoked by one or more of the
> various make tools; mms/mmk/gmake/etc.
>
> On other platforms, the settings can be stored in the project database
> file that's used to build the whole project.
>
> Which is really handy in various ways, and can sometimes be very opaque
> in other cases.
>
> Or there's the ever-popular forest of logical names.  🙄

Please not!

>> Different programs may have different needs, and should those
>> re-compiling the programs have to remember how to do so?  Much better
>> to just place the requirements inside the programs.
>>
>> Maybe some day C and such will learn how to do so?
>>
>> Nah, I'm just dreaming ....
>>
>> PS - and don't tell me it already can, I just don't care ...
>
> Embedding the settings directly into the source code tends to be
> somewhat brittle.

How so?  The settings are for the particular source code, right?  What 
could be better than keeping them together?

> Works well, right up until you're dealing with architecture-specific or
> build-specific or version-specific switches/controls/settings/qualifiers.

Guess I don't get out much.  None of that makes any sense to me.

> I've used the C preprocessor to build Fortran code, as have various
> other folks.

Nor does that make sense to me.


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