[Info-vax] Java on VMS, was: Re: So is there still a hobbyist program or not

[Simon Clubley]

On 2019-07-21, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> On 7/21/2019 8:21 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> 
>> I would say they are both in legacy status as opposed to dead.
>
> I would not consider big data and Android devices to be legacy.
>

If Oracle keep attacking Google in the way they are, it could be
interesting to see how long Java on Android lasts in anything
other than legacy mode.

Google have been making a heavy move towards supporting Kotlin
as an alternative to Java.

I know you know this, but for those who don't, here's some reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotlin_%28programming_language%29

Oracle's very short sighted actions are in very serious danger of
killing off Java for future development work.

>>                                  especially given the stunts
>> that Oracle are pulling over its licencing.
>
> As I explained in that long post there is really not that
> big change: Oracle simplified from having a commercial version,
> a free close source version and a free open source version to only
> have a commercial version and a free open source version.
>

The major change is that on Windows you used to get a nicely
packaged and known good version of Java for free directly from
Oracle and directly ready to install by the end user.

Now, Windows sites are either going to have to choose a vendor out
of one of the various organisations supplying OpenJDK and hope the
oraganisation they choose can be trusted or they are going to have
to start paying Oracle for Java.

The version of OpenJDK for Windows from the Oracle website is not
packaged in a Windows installer (or at least it wasn't the last time
I looked).

Simon.

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