[Info-vax] question about VSI licensing

[Dave Froble]

On 7/25/2019 9:56 AM, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
> On 7/25/2019 9:47 AM, Neil Rieck wrote:
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> Our OpenVMS I64 support agreement with HPE is about to expire and I'd
>> like to
>> move everything to VSI so I'm trying to build a business case that
>> might be
>> acceptable to management before I bug anyone at VSI sales. (my boss
>> flatly
>> refused my request last year)

Just go to VSI and get a quote.  That's what they do.  Then you'll have 
all you need.  As for your boss, is he possibly planning on getting rid 
of VMS?  If not, he'll have to compromise at some time.

>> HP/HPE required that every layered product be licensed (we have HP
>> licenses
>> for: OS, FMS, BASIC, C, C++) but I have observed that licensing
>> relaxes every
>> time the OpenVMS ecosystem transferred to a new company. So here's my
>> question: do these layered products require individual VSI licenses or
>> are
>> they all covered by the OS license?
>
> For IA64, the model has not changed from HPE.
>
> However, it's my understanding that if you trade in your HPE licenses, you
> can get a substantial discount on the VSI licenses.
>
> For Alpha, it's a simpler model, with a single PAK for all LP's that
> I *think* is included with the OS license.  In other words, if you purchase
> an Alpha OS license from us, you get the LP license included.  There is
> no reduction (that I know of) if you explicitly reject the LP license.

For Rob, and other VSI lurkers here, all I will say about this topic is 
that VSI to some extent is still retaining parts of a past failed 
business model.  Failure is to be avoided.  Just offer people the 
capability to use your products as long as they purchase support.  For 
those who won't purchase new licenses for something they have already 
purchased, you're not getting anything, anmd won't get anything. 
Possibly drive people away from VMS.  Look at what you can get, and 
maximize that.


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