[Info-vax] C99 stuff (Re: The Road to V9.0)

[Phillip Helbig undress to reply]

In article <qdgfbh$7fi$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
<davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes: 

> On 6/8/2019 4:31 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> > In article <qdfn5k$62h$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> > <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
> >
> >> Steven, in case you haven't already, why don't you contact VSI and
> >> discuss a developers license?  You might even make a deal to provide ZIP
> >> to them to offset any cost.
> >
> > ZIP and UNZIP are publicly available, so there would be no direct
> > benefit to VSI by getting them.
> 
> Tell me, where can I get a copy of ZIP for VMS on x86?  Inquiring minds 
> want to know.

Exactly my point.  You can compile it yourself, assuming that it will 
compile out of the box.

> > A developer's license is for someone developing a commercial
> > application.
> 
> I think VSI might be more of an authority for defining who is eligible 
> for a developer's license than you might be.

Not unless they are intentionally using the term in a non-standard way.  
Obviously, a development license is not valid for production.  Of 
course, like a commercial license, it could be used by a hobbyist, but 
is probably overpriced for most hobbyists.

> > Getting ZIP and UNZIP up to date is not a commercial venture.
> 
> But, it is a task, and just who is going to do it?

Steven Schweda is the logical choice; he has experience in maintaining 
them for VMS.  This is a great service for the community, which is why I 
think that it would be a bad political move if he has to buy any sort of 
license in order to be able to test the stuff on x86.

> > Like it or not, publicly available stuff (not just GNU, which I could
> > probably do without) is necessary in today's world.  VSI should provide
> > unlimited resources to people like Steven and Hunter who have experience
> > in this area: set up a cluster, give them accounts, let them develop
> > stuff there, run a webserver on it to make the stuff available, fix any
> > bugs they find.
> 
> Or grant them a developer's license ??????

If you are talking about GIVING them a license, then it doesn't matter 
what sort of license it is.