[Info-vax] VMSSOFTWARETRAINING youtube channel ? Found this when searching for OpenVMS on youtube

[Dave Froble]

On 6/15/2019 7:53 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 6/14/19 10:03 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 6/14/2019 6:42 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 6/13/2019 11:24 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>> On 6/13/2019 8:27 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/13/2019 8:26 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/13/2019 7:20 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/13/2019 6:24 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>>>>>> Den 2019-06-13 kl. 18:57, skrev Volker Halle:
>>>>>>>>> Lots of interesting links found under
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://training.vmssoftware.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> including Hobbyist,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://training.vmssoftware.com/hobbyist/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, *that* has to be tested...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is super cool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Definitely have to try!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Install works fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the compilers seems to be there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very easy to get started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that it is a 128 MB Alpha emulator and 128 MB is not
>>>>>> much today.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I an sure that you will hear from other for the fact that it is
>>>>> Windows based.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Should not.
>>>>
>>>> If the question "what is the largest potential user base that would
>>>> try VMS" were asked, what might be the answer?
>>>>
>>>> It's a "try it", not a production system.
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty much resigned to running the x86 port on Virtual Box, on
>>>> WEENDOZE.  Not the customers, that's a different issue.
>>>
>>> I am not complaining, but I believe we have a few
>>> people here where their religion forbid them to touch
>>> a Windows system.
>>
>> Maybe so, but I'd bet all of them already have a VMS system, or 2, or
>> 3, or ...
>>
>> So what need do they have of a "try me" set-up?
>
> Their "need" is likely a way to continue using those systems without
> having to pay commercial licensing fees for what amounts to a toy.

I have a few commercial licenses, older, but work.  I also am using a 
developer license for the latest versions from VSI.

>> Regardless, it's my opinion that there needs to be something between a
>> "try me" and a development license.
>
> I agree, especially when the x86-64 version comes into play.  But
> everyday I lower my expectations.  I see another PDP-11 Hobbyist
> World on the horizon.
>
> bill
>
>

I find this strange.

Here we have a small group of people involved in a rather large task.

In the middle of this task, they have managed to get some people 
involved in training videos, a "try me" version of the OS, and other 
things.  Could be considered impressive.

So it's strange to see those who only look at the lack of what they 
want, (which they are willing to pay nothing), rather than the brighter 
side, which is that there is progress.  Slow, but progress.

I have no idea what VSI will do.  I have some hopes.  But until the port 
is done and they have a bit of time for other things, isn't beating on 
them sort of counter-productive?

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