[Info-vax] VSI OpenVMS Hobbyist Program Announced.

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 6/17/2019 8:41 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2019-06-17, Hans Bachner <hans at bachner.priv.at> wrote:
>> I wonder why DECnet has been completely omitted. For many/most hobbyists
>> it's probably relevant.
> 
> If you are teaching students, why waste time teaching them about an
> obsolete product ?
> 
> DECnet is something that should never appear on any new VMS systems
> (in the same way as SSH is used for user logins in production sites
> in the TCP/IP world instead of telnet) and ideally should be removed
> from existing user sites as and when the opportunity arises.
> 
> Just because something was acceptable 10-20 years ago in terms of security
> in production use does not mean it is an acceptable standard these days
> (which is why telnet has now been banned in many sites in favour of SSH).

It sounds like you think unencrypted traffic within the machine room
is a thing of the past.

It is not.

Sure ssh has replaced telnet. But that is traffic coming into the
machine room.

If you try look at how application servers access database servers,
then you will find that unencrypted is still very common.

Having DECnet on systems within the machine room would not really
be that special.

Having DECnet traffic going in to and out from the machine room
would be a big no no.

But since not many modern network boxes are able to route DECnet, then
that may give itself.

Arne