[Info-vax] Some SEARCH commands

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 3/2/19 9:35 AM, IanD wrote:
> Self driving cars will come and the legal liability issue will be solved by forcing drivers who do not engage or use self driving technology off the roads through premium costs

How does that settle liability?  Who is liable when an autonomous
car hist someone?  The occupant who has no control?  The manufacturer
who programmed the feature that allowed it to hit someone?  The
pedestrian who was struck?  Raising my premiums for driving my 1979
MGB does not affect liability for the actions of autonomous motor
vehicles.

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> The same as house insurance where you need to have certain locks attached on doors as well as windows in order to not be hit with excessive premiums, so car insurance will go down the same route

See above.  Raising the rates of non=players does not affect the
liability of players.

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> As cars get smarter they will interface more to the structures around them. The real safety in self driving cars will come from their ability to integrate with other vehicles around them and coordinate for safety outcomes, after all, synergy is the fact that the sum is greater than the parts. Individual self driving cars is one thing, a fleet of them working together is quite another and it's in this capacity that they will eclipse human beings abilities for the vast majority of driving conditions

Ever watched the movie I Robot?  What could possibly go wrong.  :-)

Or, to keep things real, ever read The Risks Digest?

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> Eventually, a human driver going it alone without all the technology that can take into account 1000's of relevant items in a fraction of a second and coordinating intelligently with vehicles around them will be seen as a liability to insurance companies and either not insured or priced out of the market

That still does not settle the liability issue when the autonomous
vehicle has an accident.  Or do you believe that will never happen?

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> Already on automated factory floors robots have free reign in the majority of the factory and humans are confined to certain sections lest they stumble into the real productive areas and get hurt by their metal overlords

So now you are going to restrict the movements of pedestrians
to please the robot masters?  Tell me that doesn't sound like
a really scary world.

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> I suspect what will eventually happen is that the human owner will be forced to take legal responsibility of the self driving cars and that insurance companies will demand that humans use the features to reduce risk or pay a huge premium, thus the self driving car manufacturers will sidestep the legal issues almost entirely and that they'll only become in the cross hairs when something goes rougue and the poor driver is forced to take action against them and then your back to a David vs Goliath legal fight, like it is now

Any human who accepts liability for something he is prohibited from
controlling would be a fool.  And, that too would result in even more
legal problems.  The only one profiting from all this will be, as
usual, the lawyers.

bill