[Info-vax] OpenSSL CSWS-2.2-1

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Fri Mar 15 08:05:18 EDT 2019


On 3/14/19 4:38 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 3/14/2019 3:04 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 3/14/19 2:26 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Or port at least the web front-end to a different platform with a more
>>> current web server.
>>>
>>
>> But, that was my point exactly.  I am being forced off of XP
>> and (mostly) Vista.  I am not upgrading to Windows 7 or Windows
>> 10.  I am leaving Microsoft behind. (And recommending other
>> people do the same!!)
> 
> So what are you going to use?  Specifically for the desktop?

My every day, workhorse desktop is Ubuntu.  Been working fine since
the machine (running Vista) died about 3 years ago.  I also have it
on a couple of my laptops.  Have not found anything Windows did that
these can not do and a lot of things they can do that Windows could
not.

> 
> I also do not like using WEENDOZE 7, and refuse to boot up 10.

I refuse to pay any more money into the Microsoft coffers.  Just wish
the government would adopt this idea as well and stop wasting billions
of taxpayers dollars making them rich.

> 
>> If a business is running on VMS and a major part of that business
>> is a web server front end and they have to move that front end to
>> a different platform where is the incentive to leave anything
>> still on the VMS system?  I  have worked with heterogeneous systems.
>> It ain't fun.  Especially when something goes wrong and you have to
>> determine which platform is responsible (and I am not even talking
>> about the politics and finger pointing at the meeting tables!!)
> 
> What you do is design and implement the required interfaces.  Not so 
> hard.  It's even somewhat good to totally segregate some things.  Easier 
> to determine where problems exist.

So you add a third layer in between giving yet another item to
point fingers at and blame.  yeah, that's gonna work.

> 
> It's amusing to see the suggestions to "port".  40 years of specific 
> business logic just doesn't get re-implemented all that easily.  Or 
> cheaply.  Sort of tough to get a businessman to pay to re-implement 
> something he already has.
> 

But when you are being forced off of a system by the lack of
current, required technology what choice do you really have?

bill





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