[Info-vax] DCPS V2.7 and Brother printers
Stephen Hoffman
seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Mon Mar 25 15:29:47 EDT 2019
On 2019-03-25 19:11:02 +0000, Mark Berryman said:
> On 3/25/19 10:15 AM, Paul Anderson wrote:
>> On 3/25/19 11:28 AM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> IPP is a far more recent iteration of printing, and IPP has some
>>> definite benefits over what went before. Among other benefits, IPP a
>>> way for the host to ask the printer what it's capable of providing.
>>> Secure connections via IPPS, too.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol
>>
>> I noted this line in the article:
>>
>>> IPP is the basis of several printer logo certification programs
>>> including AirPrint, IPP Everywhere, and Mopria and is supported by over
>>> 98% of printers sold today.
>>
>> Really? 98%? Back when we worked for HP, the folks who implemented
>> IPP V1 in the printers said they weren't going to update IPP at all, as
>> they thought IPP was not going to have much of a future. Maybe V1 was
>> "good enough" and that's what's in their printers today.
>
> Are these the same folks who said "OSI will replace TCP/IP"?
> or "Groups with guitars are on their way out"?
> or "Everything that can be invented has been invented"?
> (of course, those sayings are now considered apocryphal).
>
> Every network printer I've looked at in the last 5 years supports IPP.
> Most, if not all, support IPP Everywhere. With IPP Everywhere, one can
> always query the printer for its URI.
>
> I also haven't seen one that won't print both PDF and postscript
> natively but I believe PDF is the only thing that is mandated.
>
>> I found it to be a little difficult to find out the URI of the HP
>> printers we have here at VSI. Not in the documentation, not on the
>> printer configuration page. There's a utility you can run to query
>> your network for IPP printers that gave me the URI for two of them, and
>> one worked from VMS with the IPP support in VSI TCP/IP.
>>
>> So we could add IPP support to DCPS.
>>
>> We could also port CUPS to VMS.
>>
>> We could add support to DCPS as we did in the past, but we're not owned
>> by a printer company any more. That makes it much harder to add
>> support for new printers. Plus I'm working on the new network stack
>> and don't have the cycles for doing much with DCPS.
>>
>> Suggestions welcome.
>
> It seems to me that DCPS has features that CUPS does not have (forms
> and libraries, setup modules, printing with altered margins, etc.). On
> the other hand, CUPS allows one to print to another host running CUPS
> that happens to have a directly attached printer that you are trying to
> print to.
>
> My opinion: add IPP support to DCPS quickly.
> Consider porting CUPS to VMS somewhere down the road.
>
> Mark Berryman
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