[Info-vax] Other than Oracle, What MySQL/DBMS options are there for OpenVms?

[Dave Froble]

On 3/26/2019 7:53 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 3/26/2019 2:46 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2019-03-26 kl. 19:26, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>>> On 3/26/2019 1:56 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/2019 8:02 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/2019 1:48 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>>> In article <q7c2f5$1jmf$1 at gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>>>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>>>>> Version number wise RDB has taken 23 years to go from 7.0 to 7.3.
>>>
>>>> Short term memory fails you.
>>>>
>>>> Some may remember the spat between HP and Oracle, and something from
>>>> Oracle about new versions and support and such.  Now, it was, I seem
>>>> to recall, about Oracle Classic on HP-UX, mainly.  The Rdb people
>>>> avoided any issues by just not using certain numbers in versions.
>>>> They could implement any new features they wished, they were just
>>>> limited in what they could call them.
>>>>
>>>> Don't be so quick to forget the past.
>>>
>>> ????
>>>
>>> As I remember the HP Oracle dispute then:
>>> * Oracle announced they would stop supporting Itanium
>>> * HP sued because they believed Oracle was contractually bound
>>>    to support Itanium
>>> * The judge agreed with HP
>>>
>>> I do not remember anything about Oracle not being allowed to
>>> bump major version numbers.
>>
>> Well, Oracle planned to issue a "last version" list for their VMS
>> Itanium products. The Rdb team had a new Rdb version nearly finished.
>> They released it to a few selected customers, just to be able to add
>> "7.3" to that list. And after that, they had to stick with the 7.3.x.x
>> line of versions to not break against that "last version" list, they
>> were not allowed to release a 7.4 or, for that matter, an 8.0 version.
>>
>> This is how the Rdb team presented this on some customer forum.
>>
>> Since you're not updated on the background here, you do not know this.
>
> No. But I still don't see the problem.
>
> Oracle announced that 7.3 would be the last.
>
> Oracle can easily change their mind and announce 7.4 or 8.0.
>
> I don't believe HP or the judge would prevent them from this.
>
> It is an Oracle decision. Decisions can be changed.
>
> Arne
>
>
The thing is, Arne, the Rdb people can implement many features, without 
changing the version numbers past 7.3.  So, your concept of no V8 and 
beyond meaning no improvements is a false conclusion.

And Jan-Erik and I have both provided the reasoning behind this.

Now, you might try to recover by saying that there is no proof of new 
features, and then I'm sure a user such of Jan-Erik is prepared to shoot 
your argument full of holes.

For that matter, bumping a version number is not proof of new 
capabilities.  Indicative, yes, but not assured.


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