[Info-vax] X86 first boot? - A Really Stupid Question

[Hans Bachner]

Dave Froble schrieb am 29.03.2019 um 22:11:
> On 3/29/2019 1:40 PM, IanD wrote:
>> I thought VMS wasn't going to be supported on VMware, only virtualbox
>> and KVM
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Maybe things have changed or I remembered incorrectly but I don't
>> think VMS is going to be supported on VMware (yet Charon and vtware is
>> I believe)
>>
>
> What I understood was that VMware wasn't interested, at the time, in
> supporting VMS.  Things can change.
>
> But think about it.  I do believe VMware is owned by Dell.  However,
> everyone is talking about HPE servers for x86 VMS.  What incentive would
> Dell have to support a competitor?

This would not be the case, because VSI has had Dell servers on the 
roadmap for V9 for quite some time. Due to the delay of the porting 
project, the server models mentioned in the beginning will probably not 
the ones being supported for V9, but this is also true for HPE servers.

> [...]
>
> As for the emulators, they are NOT running on the VM, they are running
> on an OS that is running on the VM.

This is true for CHARON, but not for AVTware. AVTware uses a "bare 
metal" model [1] for their emulators, vtVAX and vtAlpha run just fine in 
a VMware virtual machine without a full blown OS under them.

Beyond their standard product editions, Stromasys has a bare metal 
version of CHARON-AXP but this requires real hardware (limited to 
selected models).

Hans.

[1] actually, vtServer is the (stripped down Linux) "OS" for vtVAX and 
vtAlpha but this is not an OS instance which must be separately 
maintained by the user.