[Info-vax] VMS Software, Inc. Acquires All OpenVMS Support Business from Hewlett Packard Enterprise

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2019-10-28 kl. 01:27, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
> On 10/26/19 2:12 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 10/26/2019 11:11 AM, Kerry Main wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Jan-Erik
>>>> Söderholm via Info-vax
>>>> Sent: October 26, 2019 5:37 AM
>>>> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
>>>> Cc: Jan-Erik Söderholm <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] VMS Software, Inc. Acquires All OpenVMS Support
>>>> Business from Hewlett Packard Enterprise
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/25/2019 5:38 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, many young
>>>>>> people don't want to be trained in something perceived as a dead end
>>>>>> except perhaps if they were offered a life-long contract which
>>>>>> continues to pay even if they can't work with VMS anymore without
>>>>>> requiring them to learn anything new, which in most situations is 
>>>>>> just not
>>>> realistic.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our Indian IT-consultant partner with close to 140.000 employees has a 
>>>> hard
>>>> time to staff our *two* positions for VMS developers. And we have, in the
>>>> five years that has passed, lost two that had got up-to-speed with our 
>>>> user
>>>> environment and applications for “better” jobs in Dotnet or SAP (I 
>>>> think it
>>>> was). One stayed within this specific company, and left.
>>>>
>>>> VMS is simply not attractive enough, in particular in the Indian IT 
>>>> consulting
>>>> market.
>>>>
>>> [snip..]
>>>
>>> Fwiw, this issue with the Indian outsourcing market is not unique to 
>>> OpenVMS.
>>>
>>> It was very common a few years back (not sure if still is), where the 
>>> demand for local tech talent was so huge that those with skills were 
>>> hopping from one job to another every few months because of the jumps in 
>>> pay they were offered.
>>>
>>> This was a problem for all outsourcers based in India (and likely other 
>>> places as well).
>>
>> This is a two edged problem.  You need new people.  You can hire them, 
>> and train them, but if they just leave as soon as they get a better 
>> offer, you've wasted all the time, and the money you paid them.  Keep in 
>> mind, while in training, they do not produce any revenue.  If not for the 
>> eventual need, you're better off not hiring and training.
>>
>> Not sure how to address the problem, or if it is possible to do so.
>>
>> Sort of goes back to what they learn in school before entering the jab 
>> market, huh?
>>
>> Makes me wonder how legal it might be to have some clause, that if you 
>> train someone, they have to give you some agreed upon amount of time, or, 
>> they pay back some amount for the training.
>>
>>
> 
> Totally legal.

Well, what is "totally legal" or not, is highly dependning on where
you live, of course. Are you only talkning about some remote part
of the world? Maybe even some single country? If so, you have got
a very limited view of things in general, I guess.