[Info-vax] C99 stuff (Re: The Road to V9.0)

[Kerry Main]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj
> via Info-vax
> Sent: September 12, 2019 9:07 AM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] C99 stuff (Re: The Road to V9.0)
> 
> On 9/11/2019 4:12 PM, Bob Koehler wrote:
> > In article <qkprh8$1sn7$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-
> 8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> >> The programmers like short and concise names.
> >
> >     Nope.  For decades I've been hearing "methodology" from programmers
> and not
> >     yet discovered any real difference from "technique".
> 
> If a programmer use "methodology" I will expect him to talk about process
> and when using "technique" something more technical.
> 
> Arne
> 

Part of hype challenge is that you have multiple Dev and OPS groups with
different managers and getting them all to agree on common processes is next
to impossible. Especially when new processes conflict with supporting
existing applications that already have multiple change requests with tight
deadlines in the hopper.

Sample in med-large org
- 15-20+ App groups
- 2-3 middleware groups (depending on Windows/Linux)
- 1 OPS shared services group with different Units
(Windows/Linux/UNIX-other). The one principle in common that they have is no
priv's for Dev's in production.
- 2 Security BU's (policy/tactical), that has multiple units (FW, AD, SIEM,
AV, VM scanning etc.)
- ITSM group (small little thing like change, config and service mgmt.
Things like App monitoring etc)

Now, see if you can even get even the managers to agree on a new process -
let alone all of the different members of these groups.

New hype is always great until someone decides to introduce culture reality.

While SOA has some good concepts and value in the right places, imho, above
was what ultimately also sank SOA hype back in the day.


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com