[Info-vax] VSI software

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2020-08-07 kl. 14:57, skrev Dave Froble:
> On 8/7/2020 6:04 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> In article <rghu4l$2bc$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 8/6/2020 12:32 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>> In article <rgh889$u24$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> However, if VSI wants VMS cluster to be used, they need to shove it in
>>>>> front of as many faces as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Different strokes for different folks, but my guess is that a very large
>>>> majority of paying customers (presumably those with most influence on
>>>> VSI) use clusters.
>>>>
>>>>> Not allowing users of the CL to
>>>>> discover the advantages of VMS cluster
>>>>> (assuming there are advantages)
>>>>
>>>> Of course there are advantages.
>>>>
>>>> Similar remarks reply to Rdb.  I don't know what fraction of VMS users
>>>> use it, but I guess that a large majority of VMS revenue comes from
>>>> those who use Rdb.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are making wild ass guesses without mentioning any facts to back
>>> them up.  Just because you use something does not mean most others do also.
>>
>> I'm not making things up; it is based on experience.  Yes, I've used
>> both clusters and Rdb, but I am not assuming that most people do just
>> because of that.  I also didn't say "most people", but rather "most
>> revenue".
>>
>> If you disagree, do you have any evidence that I am wrong?
>>
> 
> No more than you do.
> 

I would think he have. Philip works within a major VMS/Rdb player
in Germany, as as such one do get insight through techical update
days both around VMS and Rdb (VMS owners and Oracle usually have
points in the agendas of each other). You can see from the attendant
lists that VMS users and Rdb users to a large degree matches.
At least amongs those that attends the technical update days.

As you use to say, David, you do not get out much, so I would not
count what you think in *this* area higher then Philips experiences.

Rdb is a major player in the VMS market place. I'm willing to say
that, without Rdb, the x86 port is mostly pointless. The remianing
non-Rdb sites is *probably* not enought to support the VSI business.

So it is in your own interest, David, no matter if you use Rdb, that
Rdb will be available on VMS x86. I'm not concerned, it would surprise
me a lot if Oracle is not one of the ISV's running VMS on x86 today.

It is interesting to send a question to the Rdb mailing list around
some larger holiday. You get a lot of out-of-office messages back
that paints some kind of picture of the Rdb marketplace... :-)