[Info-vax] Python and various libraries updated

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Sun Aug 9 13:22:15 EDT 2020


On 8/9/2020 11:54 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?=  <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>> Den 2020-08-08 kl. 18:30, skrev Scott Dorsey:
>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?=  <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it is simply that the goal for VSI is not to contribute to the
>>>> open soure world as such, just to provide their customers access to
>>>> some open source tools that might be of value (to the customers).
>>>
>>> The thing is that many open source licenses -require- that any changes
>>> or additions to their code be made available in source form...
>>
>> Sure! But "made available" is not the same thing as "contributing to
>> the open source world".
>>
>> VSI can do additions and share them with the (few) VMS users that are
>> interested. But they do not need to, what ever it is called, send it
>> upstreams to the main source code repository.
> 
> This is true.  However, if you don't get your changes included in the
> main distribution, you can give up any chance of being able to incorporate
> updates from the main distribution in the future.  It is a -lot- more work
> to maintain software this way.  You can do it, if you have to.
> 
> And really, it's not very difficult to get your updates incorporated in the
> main distribution, if they don't affect non-VMS systems.
> 
>> I think there is a difference there...
> 
> There is.  It's the difference between creating your own software distribution
> and using someone else's.  There are some arguments in favor of both, but when
> your labour is limited and you expect the software to have any longevity, it's
> easier to get someone else to do the maintenance.

Yes. And that is important because open source will not be a tiny
exotic corner of VSI software - it will be a huge part.

It is difficult to predict about the future, but my crystal
ball says that in 2025 then the software VSI distribute will be
1/3 closed source (written by VSI or licensed from HPE) and 2/3
open source.

LLVM, OpenJDK, Python, Apache, PHP etc..

Arne




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