[Info-vax] DECnet bashing

[Dave Froble]

On 8/9/2020 12:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 8/9/20 9:37 AM, hb wrote:
>> On 8/9/20 2:04 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 8/8/20 5:24 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>>> On 8/8/20 9:24 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>>> I can easily let BACKUP create a saveset on a remote IBM SAN
>>>>> storage system.
>>>>
>>>> That does not sound like a remote / different VMS host to me.  It
>>>> sounds more like the same local VMS host with what acts like some
>>>> really long SCSI cables.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about using NFS?
>>>
>>> bill
>>>
>>
>> Should work. But then you have to serve a disk/directory on the remote
>> node and mount it on the local node. That looks different to me.
>
> Well, my experience with NFS is that the necessary server/client
> relationship would already exist and the mounts happen when the
> systems are booted.
>
>>
>> On other systems one can do something like
>>    # tar czf - local/ | ssh remote.net "cat >local.tar"
>> to backup and vice versa to restore files.
>
> Tar is by no means equivalent to VMS BACKUP.  And It is not a part
> of VMS anyway.
>
>>
>> Unfortunately BACKUP does not work with VMS pipes. And all the ssh
>> clients and servers on VMS I tried, don't support (VMS) pipes either.
>
> Thus the reason I said NFS.  :-)
>
> bill
>
>

I've never used NFS.  Don't know anything about it.  Though it appears 
to be the only possible alternative to my original post question.

Regardless, DECnet does the job, it does it well, and I see no reason to 
change, just because some think DECnet is a problem.

Media never leaves here.
People don't come here.
I've got a good backup system.

What else matters?

When FAL exists for TCP/IP, I'll consider it.

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