[Info-vax] Open source usage, Was Python and various libraries updated

[gérard Calliet]

Le 13/08/2020 à 00:47, David Goodwin a écrit :
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 8:03:34 AM UTC+12, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> To me the biggest problem with VMS and open source is not VSI
>> but the community.
It's a big problem, not the biggest. The two problems are mixed.
>>
>> There are way too few that are willing to spend time
>> on VMS open source.
> 
> If open source projects on OpenVMS are important then VSI probably needs to actively encourage participation. Perhaps if some of their own things were open source and easy to contribute to people in the OpenVMS community would get involved.
It is my point. I just hope VSI could do the minimum so community could 
take the opportunity.
> 
> As far as the wider open-source community goes, unless big changes are made that's probably a lost cause. OpenVMS is too obscure and too proprietary for most to bother with even if they have heard of it and are aware its still maintained.
> 
It is our responsibility to make OpenVMS known and liked. We can develop 
a form of curiosity about OpenVMS. Young ingineers are often inquisitive 
people. And for-long-time developments, reusability are becoming hype.

I think of this situation as something like a dead lock:

VSI doesn't help encouraging collaboration on Open Source, and thinks 
there is not sufficient strength outside that can be usefull,

The community - little for now - doesn't engage with strength on 
collaboration, and is discouraged by the lack of interest on 
collaboration by VSI.

Something has to be done to unlock this. Community License is a very 
good point. Making more standardfully available Open Source developments 
will be the next good point.

More generaly VSI and the community have to quit the old paradigm of the 
marvelous company and the passive users. We have all to rebuild trusted 
collaboration, and adopt some ways from the Open Source paradigm. And we 
have also to be more conscious of the specific qualities of OpenVMS 
which can be "selled" to other people.

Gérard Calliet