[Info-vax] The new world that VMS will be living in

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 12/7/2020 8:05 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/7/20 2:40 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2020-12-07 kl. 20:35, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>>> On 12/7/20 2:10 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> Deutsche Bank just announced that they have signed with
>>>> Google to move most of their IT To Google cloud.
>>>>
>>>>  From the press:
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> The two companies on Friday finalized a cloud computing agreement 
>>>> under which the German lender plans to shift most of its data onto 
>>>> Google servers, technology head Bernd Leukert said in a phone 
>>>> interview.
>>>> ...
>>>> The deal will include “applications at the heart of our IT,” Leukert 
>>>> said in an interview,
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> This follow that Capital One closed down their last data center
>>>> a month ago after migrating everything to Amazon cloud.
>>>>
>>>> VMS will need to function - and function well - in such new
>>>> environments.
>>>
>>> Once you move your data to The Cloud it ceases to be your
>>> data.  Hell of a way to run a business.
>>
>> So you do not have your savings at the bank either, right?
>> Since it then ceases to be your money, if I understand you.
>> And banks are a hell of a way to manage your savings.
> 
> Another typical bad analogy.  If someone else knows the color of my
> money it's still mine.

Yes. But putting money in the bank is a bit more.

> Now, we all know how tightly protected the VMS Customer List has
> always been.  With The Cloud you put it on another persons machine
> under their control and relying on their security.  If it gets out
> nothing can ever make it secure again.

Are you concerned that Amazon, Microsoft, Google etc. will
get a list with 10-25% of VMS customers based on who runs
VMS in their cloud and the list will leak??

>                                     Now, tell me, what exactly
> has any Cloud Provider done to make me want to trust them?

Driven successful business for many years will convince
many.

It may not be enough for you?

> And that's only one aspect.  How about reliability?  How long can]
> your business run if your Cloud Provider goes down?

How long can they run if their own data center goes down.

Same.

>                                                     What exactly
> have they done to make you feel that t herfe is no chance of that
> happening?

Regions, availability zones etc..

Cloud does not change the redundancy requirements - it just make it
a bit easier and cheaper to meet them.

If it was necessary with 2 data centers with a certain distance between
for on premise, then that is still necessary with cloud.

> And the list goes on and on.  If anyone did real Risk Analysis
> before moving to the Cloud no one would.

You don't think Deutsche Bank did a risk analysis??

Arne