[Info-vax] The new world that VMS will be living in

[Dave Froble]

On 12/7/2020 3:49 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/7/2020 3:24 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 12/7/2020 2:44 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 12/7/2020 2:35 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 12/7/20 2:10 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> Deutsche Bank just announced that they have signed with
>>>>> Google to move most of their IT To Google cloud.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From the press:
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> The two companies on Friday finalized a cloud computing agreement
>>>>> under which the German lender plans to shift most of its data onto
>>>>> Google servers, technology head Bernd Leukert said in a phone
>>>>> interview.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> The deal will include “applications at the heart of our IT,” Leukert
>>>>> said in an interview,
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> This follow that Capital One closed down their last data center
>>>>> a month ago after migrating everything to Amazon cloud.
>>>>>
>>>>> VMS will need to function - and function well - in such new
>>>>> environments.
>>>>
>>>> Once you move your data to The Cloud it ceases to be your
>>>> data.
>>>
>>> I do not see that.
>>>
>>> It is legally still your data.
>>>
>>> And assuming proper encryption is used, then you have access
>>> to data while the cloud provider does not have access to data.
>>
>> I believe that you totally miss Bill's point.  The issue is whether
>> your data is protected from loss.
>
>> Yes, one can lose data on computers.  But one can mitigate the
>> situation with reliable backups and other procedures.  In the cloud,
>> one might not have such control of data protection.
>
> Cloud is not magic.
>
> If some data need to be backed up when the data are stored on premise,
> then the data still need to be backed up when moved to cloud.
>
> AWS (Amazon), Azure (Microsoft) and GCP (Google) all offer backup
> services, where you can setup the backup you want.
>
>> There have already been instances of cloud providers going out of
>> business, and customer's data being lost.  Now, that's a hell of a way
>> to run a business.
>
> Again cloud is not magic.
>
> You need to find a reliable vendor.
>
> Your neighbors nephews garage company does not cut it.

You don't know what my neighbor's nephew is offering ...

> For IaaS cloud I would go for one of the 3 big ones (Amazon,
> Microsoft, Google) or one of the traditional enterprise
> vendors (IBM, Oracle).
>
> I would avoid the small unknown companies they could and
> likely will go out of business.

If everyone listened to you ....

But perhaps some smaller providers might offer a better and safer service.

If your "big 3" don't see competition, why should they get any better?

> And I would avoid the Chinese
> companies (Alibaba, Tencent) due to risk of the relationship
> between China and the west going totally sour.

It's already sour.

Don't kid yourself, the ChiComs goal is world domination.  They may be 
patient.  But I'm sure the people of Hong Kong can tell you how the 
ChiComs keep their word.

How can anyone trust those they know will lie to them?

Like Iran?

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