[Info-vax] SOLVED : Re: Process quota problem after upgrade to 8.4-2L1

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2020-12-22 21:42:20 +0000, Dave Froble said:

> On 12/22/2020 4:05 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>> There are cases when the developer forgot to specify quotas such as on 
>> a detached process creation, yes.
> 
> Well, I didn't forget, I figured they were already set elsewhere.
> 
> :-)

Or are mis-set elsewhere. Or are subject to conflicting requirements. 
Or somebody skipped that step in the doc when installing, and the 
product support folks later had to find that error.

There used to be open conflicts around folks wanting and not wanting to 
perform AUTOGEN passes. Folks that swore off running AUTOGEN, or that 
got hosed by an AUTOGEN pass. Those arguments are less common now 
judging largely by what gets posted around here in the comp.os.vms 
newsgroup, but that might only mean that folks are running AUTOGEN less 
often. Because there are still apps that are dependent on parameters or 
logical names being set or not being set as required; AUTOGEN-fragile 
and logical-name-fragile apps.

>> These arise both with defaulted RUN /DETACH commands, and with 
>> defaulted $creprc calls.
>> 
>> Most developers eventually learn that the process quotas and the 
>> mailbox quotas and the IOSBs and such should not be defaulted.
> 
> I haven't learned that, yet, but, I will agree that being specific is 
> the better practice.
> 
>> Eventually.
> 
> Unless one is as lazy as me ...
> 
> :-)

I've chased more than a few of these messes around.

Please specify that IOSB everywhere (and check it!) and please also 
specify quota lists and mailbox quotas and the rest of that ilk.

I'd prefer those and other such not-really-optional arguments to be 
promoted to required arguments, but that's not happening anytime soon...

Fixing that has cleaned up a number of weird behaviors in the apps I've 
maintained or have been called in to extend or to troubleshoot.


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