[Info-vax] TCPWare SMTP Setup

[Chris Townley]

On 28/12/2020 14:44, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2020-12-28 kl. 14:15, skrev Chris Townley:
>> On 28/12/2020 11:57, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <rsceu2$eae$1 at dont-email.me>, Chris Townley
>>> <news at cct-net.co.uk> writes:
>>>
>>>> Having completely failed to get this running under TCP/IP I thought I
>>>> would try under TCPWare - V6.0-0 under OpenVMS V8.4-2L1
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to simply enable sending via my ISPs SMTP server, which I
>>>> had done many tears ago under VMS 7.3 with TCPWare, and ISTR under VMS
>>>> 8.3 with TCP/IP services, but so far getting nowhere!
>>>
>>> So you have sent outgoing mail via a TCPIP relay server before?
>>>
>> Yes, although not on the machines I am playing with - they are boty 
>> fresh installs of VSI 8.4-2L1 on FreeAXP - 1 with TCPWare and one with 
>> TCP/IP Services
>>
>>>> Cam anybody point me to some sort of Noddy goes SMTP document? All the
>>>> documentation I can find explains bits, but not how to do it
>>>
>>> TCPIP> SET CONFIG SMTP/GATEWAY=ALTERNATE=<name of relay server>
>>>
>>
>> Have played with this, as well as /GATEWAY=GENERAL-<> but either qway 
>> the send job is queued up, then disapp;ears to be repokaced by another 
>> job. All I see in the log is:
>>
>> $ type SYS$SYSROOT:[TCPIP$SMTP]TCPIP$SMTP_VSIALP.LOG;38
>>
>> %%%%%%%%%%%%                   28-DEC-2020 12:28:56.19  %%%%%%%%%%%%
>> %TCPIP-I-SMTP_LOGSUC, using log file 
>> TCPIP$SMTP_COMMON:TCPIP$SMTP_VSIALP.LOG
>>
>> %%%%%%%%%%%%                   28-DEC-2020 12:28:56.22  %%%%%%%%%%%%
>> %TCPIP-I-SMTP_SYMBRUN, symbiont is running the queue TCPIP$SMTP_VSIALP_1
>>
>> _VSIALP$DKA100:[TOWNLEYC]20122812391730_TOWNLEYC-131.TCPIP_VSIALP;1
>> From: townleyc at vsialp.cct-net.co.uk
>> To: cctownley at gmail.com
>> Requeued.
>>
>> _VSIALP$DKA100:[TOWNLEYC]20122812391730_TOWNLEYC-131.TCPIP_VSIALP;1
>> From: townleyc at vsialp.cct-net.co.uk
>> To: cctownley at gmail.com
>> Requeued.
>>
>> _VSIALP$DKA100:[TOWNLEYC]20122812391730_TOWNLEYC-131.TCPIP_VSIALP;1
>> From: townleyc at vsialp.cct-net.co.uk
>> To: cctownley at gmail.com
>> Requeued.
>>
>> Which is not much use!
>>
>> I have the following setup:
>>
>> $ tcpip show config smtp /full
>>
>> SMTP Configuration
>>                                                                     
>> Options
>> Initial interval:   0 00:30:00.00       Address_max:    16       
>> EIGHT_BIT
>> Retry interval:     0 01:00:00.00       Hop_count_max:  16       RELAY
>> Maximum interval:   3 00:00:00.00                                
>> TOP_HEADERS
>>
>> Timeout             Initial       Mail    Receipt       Data  Terminate
>>    Send:                   5          5          5          3         10
>>    Receive:                5
>>
>> Alternate gateway:  RELAY.PLUS.NET
>> General gateway:    RELAY.PLUS.NET
>>
>> Substitute domain:  not defined
>> Zone:               not defined
>>
>> Postmaster:         TCPIP$SMTP
>> Log file:           SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]TCPIP$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG
>>
>> Generic queue       Queues   Participating nodes
>>
>> TCPIP$SMTP_VSIALP_00   1     VSIALP
>> $
>>
>>
>> where RELAY.PLUS.NET is my ISPs SMTP server - they do not require 
>> authentication if coming from one of their addresses.
>>
>>
>>
>> cHRIS
> 
> 
> Have you tried to run a manual SMTP session?
> 
> What if you do:
> 
> $ telnet RELAY.PLUS.NET /port=25

Failed at the first hurdle - Host not found. As I switched from DHCP to 
a fixed IP address (as DHCP would not honour the assigned IP address) it 
is missing the default gateway.

Will fix that next!

> 
> Does the SMTP server reply in a sensible way?
> 
> This is from a working setup (some data hidden):
> 
> $ tcpip sho conf smtp /fu
> 
> SMTP Configuration
>                                                         Options
> Initial interval: 0 00:30:00.00   Address_max:    16   NOEIGHT_BIT
> Retry interval:   0 01:00:00.00   Hop_count_max:  16   NORELAY
> Maximum interval: 3 00:00:00.00                        TOP_HEADERS
> 
> Timeout         Initial    Mail    Receipt     Data  Terminate
>    Send:               5       5          5        3         10
>    Receive:            5
> 
> Alternate gateway:  xxx.xxx.xxx
> General gateway:    not defined
> 
> Substitute domain:  yyy.xxx
> Zone:               not defined
> 
> Postmaster:         TCPIP$SMTP
> Log file:           SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]TCPIP$SMTP_LOGFILE.LOG
> 
> Generic queue       Queues   Participating nodes
> 
> TCPIP$SMTP_zzzz_00     1     zzzz
> 
> $
> $ telnet xxx.xxx.xxx /port=25
> %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 1.2.3.4
> %TELNET-I-SESSION, Session 01, host xxx.xxx.xxx, port 25
> 220 xxx.xxx.xxx Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 8.5.9600.16384 
> ready at  Mon, 28 Dec 2020 15:36:25 +0100
> quit  <<== My entry...
> 221 2.0.0 xxx.xxx.xxx Service closing transmission channel
> %TELNET-S-REMCLOSED, Remote connection closed
> -TELNET-I-SESSION, Session 01, host xxx.xxx.xxx, port 25
> $
> $
> 
> Maybe you need a "substitue domain" so that your SMTP client
> is accepted by your SMTP server?