[Info-vax] New installment in The OpenVMS Consultant: Shutdowns using STARTUP.COM

Stephen Hoffman seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid
Wed Dec 30 14:27:26 EST 2020


On 2020-12-29 09:32:53 +0000, Jan-Erik Søderholm said:

> Den 2020-12-28 kl. 17:48, skrev Stephen Hoffman:
>> 
>> Some of this shutdown "design" did get fixed.......
> 
> OK. Back on track, what was "fixed" around the issues with a lost 
> terminal session when doing a shutdown using a telnet or ssh session?

SHUTDOWN used to fail with DECnet network terminal sessions, similar to 
what is happening now with IP.

DECnet network terminal sessions also once failed with the DST time 
change, but that too was fixed. But I digress.

Fixes related SHUTDOWN initiated from IP network terminal sessions? 
None. This mess has largely been ignored.

The experienced users know the workarounds. The inexperienced and 
incautious get to learn or re-learn the lessons.

OpenVMS suffers many lingering effects of decisions around IP 
networking from decades ago.

And the effects of decisions around investments, with few focused 
toward usability of installations and upgrades, startup, shutdown, 
licensing, docs, and such.

Embedded systems yes, but how many other general-purpose operating 
systems still have optional IP networking and not integrated?

TL;DR: OpenVMS can't reliably shut down using default tooling and IP 
network terminal sessions, some forty years on.



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