[Info-vax] DECUServe is a Hobbyist Chapter

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2020-07-04 17:29:29 +0000, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply said:

> In article <rdqd6l$f66$1 at panix2.panix.com>, kludge at panix.com (Scott
> Dorsey) writes:
> 
>> Yes, splitting decnet off was a big advance.  But in a perfect world, 
>> every part of the system would be a layered product and they would all 
>> just layer on top of one another.  It took the Unix world many decades 
>> before Solaris was built this way, but now it's become quite ordinary 
>> there.  The ability to build a system that has just the pieces that you 
>> need is a big deal in the modern world where people use the same OS for 
>> radically different applications.
> 
> Not that long ago, I remember people here complaining that TCPIP was 
> not an integral part of VMS, even that a Webserver wasn't an integral 
> part, that all of that stuff should be installed, set up, and 
> configured by default.  :-|

And telnet and a web server should absolutely be part of the base 
installation of OpenVMS.

Not as layered products.

Getting rid of old apps and insecure apps and insecure protocols is an 
ongoing investment.

So too is upgrading the default features provided.

As for a package manager, that's something that would be greatly 
appreciated, but I'd rather see some of the core networking and 
security issues fixed first, before introducing a package manager into 
the fray.

The sorts of features and capabilities that a package manager would 
depend on, and the sorts of features and capabilities that would reduce 
or eliminate apps needing to splatter their parts all over the OpenVMS 
system environment and as has been longstanding app practice.


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