[Info-vax] DECUServe is a Hobbyist Chapter

[David Wade]

On 06/07/2020 17:37, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 7/6/20 9:03 AM, David Wade wrote:
>> On 05/07/2020 17:43, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 7/5/2020 3:39 AM, David Wade wrote:
>>>> On 04/07/2020 21:49, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>>> Stephen Hoffman  <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Fortran itself is starting to sprout a package manager with fpm, too:
>>>>>> https://github.com/fortran-lang/fpm
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a disaster waiting to happen.  Notice how Python has turned 
>>>>> into
>>>>> a hellish mass of library dependencies that are constantly changing?
>>>>
>>>> I am still in shock over this. It took longer to figure out 
>>>> dependancies that it did to build hardware. Error message says 
>>>> install python3-ini when you need python3.8-ini. yuk.
>>>
>>> Did you try to get things manual instead of using pip?
>>>
>>> Or was the dependencies declared wrong so pip failed?
>>>
>>> Arne
>>>
>> I was somewhat blindly installing this :-
>>
>> https://github.com/lowobservable/oec
>>
>> Which says it needs python 3.8. So I naively did :
>>
>> "sudo apt-get install python3.8"
>>
>> Then as suggested in the instructions I was following I did
>>
>> python3.8 -m venv VIRTUALENV
>>
>> which says it needs "python3.pip" so I did
>>
>> "sudo apt-get install python3-pip"
>>
>> which trundles away, and the repeat the previous command which fails 
>> with the same error...
>> .... a bit of googling turned up several folks with the same error and 
>> suggestions about updating repository sources when the real answer is 
>> to install python3.8-pip. I guess its obvious once you know, but was a 
>> pain at the time...
>>
> 
> Or you could stop using the Python crap (and the other ego language
> du jour) and go back to using real languages to develop real programs.
> 
> bill
> 
I generally don't use Python but if I stopped using applications written 
in Python I would have to write a lot of code.

Its not just python. The Linux dependencies seem really broken. I got 
stuck in a nasty loop a couple of weeks ago trying to install CMAKE that 
left me in a similar hook...

Dave